X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=NYOYKFL4 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=CApk6KxTCkM1rIyOMRcVCg==:117 a=ssLVzwRQRmYksP1d/+CGUg==:17 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=CKeqCrOqW6IA:10 a=sTwFKg_x9MkA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=pcLIrrrKAAAA:8 a=HsPQOeeVAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=9phYt7cUG5VXtX-An1cA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=4PR2P7QzAAAA:8 a=kklffwC0P1CFP_TcK18A:9 a=Pau1B-OzABGMQBnr:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=K4zwZx8V3RiqtC445DgA:9 a=pL9niUORxCtBgcPD:18 a=HXjIzolwW10A:10 a=T6a71-JsGAwA:10 a=5YQ6H4ZxyGn-KoBYtt8s:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=58iYmLzqx6iModMdnJ_F:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 a=4dqwQCo7Po2mVW515mGf:22 From: "Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pj1-f49.google.com ([209.85.216.49] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 226213 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 09 May 2020 18:14:49 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.216.49; envelope-from=stephen.izett@gmail.com Received: by mail-pj1-f49.google.com with SMTP id k7so904173pjs.5 for ; Sat, 09 May 2020 15:14:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=zpUyAeMlk9UEmpDRsTrgSdLnZ5C6DLI9Av9hUt627Yw=; b=noou+Y8RAfIRxm5pgZ96DDQNIF1A8G4xSrhdkhakG46vHk+KwzMfxkvPv3O4yR+los OFb5O8k5CfTi5k/9Y3x8vqWGEEow+/eaQycjDyZbqeerJfLcjRKOYE9BIFu1Ia7IN0Z5 0+mZD9IwjtICr3MW2c6m9ZLQcnOGwEP3ngFMqzFVdZu1osjQUT0J12iBfFUkb8JffkN0 dmO04aDyHTYUzQ1gpYhtsmlLnjQdW2IINbrUB6noNXAuSZw/Tn1hBiHrcIZYKZyJknrg +lA1Mawvw6e+qBGcnUH0mpMpH86QglEJX7J0/25T62E+rKyYhQt0+oGuKH/3WUW88oQH k4Hw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to:message-id; bh=zpUyAeMlk9UEmpDRsTrgSdLnZ5C6DLI9Av9hUt627Yw=; b=ujXr/LR0i+WRaKMt5tlgWG387go+nbIO3DcWJwsHG6CyLgCJ+IxL51vbIRejdLS3+a q2o3M371HBHBy3U7Qi6S19nHYSZq0j5aHhCQvg9ck72EOPMQ74Y2M81+2kaFTyLBuMZr 0ke/9LPHL+4ZtFDpTaov6CNeg6REe1HV2ZncQElcnGvXhiMrXY4WfArdRmwUoYzFzH7W xfM0ThftNqb/sF6slA72XVZ+dDUapEj5EOi7v91mR3JnNiEdgwYYoAeSF8eqbNKgcs41 bsRleDcxb2nQiRm0m9/+jzLDahNcWgz2bdWgi8JCKp0LtylFhFo4DT65b7i2ULJOBmn0 UwnA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pub3tLXj83w7JaUugbqSLlHkvzs8WKR3QRmXxe5nGRXf+RPJ7l/k gEoM44GCnTwNTaPe9L2zCZuIXiIe X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypLfXmbwDdIMW+tWUtzXqYAFR1f4rt0nvF6cLMYU9z09lFApnLEjyeJXGDVtRG8m0/b+rJAOLA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:20ee:: with SMTP id f101mr13693648pjg.197.1589062471483; Sat, 09 May 2020 15:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from macbook-pro.lan ([118.209.160.247]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 11sm3330312pgs.27.2020.05.09.15.14.29 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 09 May 2020 15:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_31640AA9-13F4-41AE-A494-26996DDDCE98" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary Engine Noise Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 06:14:27 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <39C7A50A-1BE2-481D-B5D9-AADBCB781742@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) --Apple-Mail=_31640AA9-13F4-41AE-A494-26996DDDCE98 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Finn Yes, I=E2=80=99d like the science on inlet lips. Just reworked our oil inlet and all I have is this drawing. Steve > On 9 May 2020, at 10:15 pm, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net = wrote: >=20 > Opposite of what I understand: > You want a large external radius and a smaller inside radius. >=20 > I've in vain been searching for the NACA paper that Tracy Crook get = the exact number (internal/external) from. Probably somewhere between = 0.5 and 0.8. >=20 > Finn >=20 > On 5/8/2020 11:02 PM, Terry Adams terrywadams@sbcglobal.net wrote: >> You may want to test the lip/airflow on the scoop to your = cooling.=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD Adding a generous radius to the inside may = add considerable airflow.=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD Consult the work and = directions given by Peter Garrison and his plane Melmoth = (www.melmoth2.com).=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD jm2c fwiw >>=20 >> Terry >>=20 >> On 5/8/2020 3:34 PM, 12348ung@gmail.com wrote: >>> Le Roux, >>> You have done a great job so I hesitate to add = photos of >>> my work, but here goes Neil. >>>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 >>> >>> =20 >>> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 10:31 PM >>> To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 >>> >>>=20 >>> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary Engine Noise >>>=20 >>> Hello Le Roux: >>> This Frontal photo tells you quite a bit about my cowlings and my = airplane. >>> The top two inlets are for my oil coolers (2 x Fluidyne DB-30416) = and the >>> bottom inlet is for my radiator (Griffin 2-58185-X). >>> With a "Chubby Cubby" drag is given, things like Aero-Turbine = mufflers and >>> long exhaust pipes (to get noise behind cabin) are not too = significant.=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Jeff: Thanks for taking us aboard the flight over the Ottawa River! >>>=20 >>> I am a relative new member on the group, and are not on terms, with = the FWF >>> installations of the members. >>>=20 >>> Is it possible to post some info of your 13B installation and = cowling? >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> Thanks Le Roux Breytenbach >>>=20 >>> South Africa >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Homepage: =20 >>> http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>=20 >>> Archive and UnSub: =20 >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>=20 >> --=20 >> Communication ink and paper free >>=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_31640AA9-13F4-41AE-A494-26996DDDCE98 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="text/html"; boundary="Apple-Mail=_275F08A4-0E6A-447B-AF5B-6316B143519A" --Apple-Mail=_275F08A4-0E6A-447B-AF5B-6316B143519A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi Finn
Yes, I=E2=80=99d = like the science on inlet lips.
Just reworked our = oil inlet and all I have is this drawing.

Steve


On 9 May = 2020, at 10:15 pm, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Opposite of what I understand:
You want a large = external radius and a smaller inside radius.

I've in vain been searching for the NACA paper that Tracy = Crook get the exact number (internal/external) from. Probably = somewhere between 0.5 and 0.8.

Finn

On 5/8/2020 11:02 PM, Terry Adams terrywadams@sbcglobal.net wrote:
You may want to test the lip/airflow on the scoop to = your cooling.=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD Adding a generous radius to the = inside may add considerable airflow.=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD Consult the = work and directions given by Peter Garrison and his plane Melmoth = (www.melmoth2.com).=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD jm2c fwiw

Terry

On 5/8/2020 3:34 = PM, 12348ung@gmail.com wrote:
Le Roux,
        =             You have done a great job so I = hesitate to add photos of
my work, but here goes =   Neil.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary = motors in aircraft 
<flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
 
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 10:31 = PM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft 
<flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary Engine = Noise

Hello Le = Roux:
This Frontal photo tells you quite a bit = about my cowlings and my airplane.
The top two = inlets are for my oil coolers (2 x Fluidyne DB-30416) and the
bottom inlet is for my radiator (Griffin = 2-58185-X).
With a "Chubby Cubby" drag is given, = things like Aero-Turbine mufflers and
long exhaust = pipes (to get noise behind cabin) are not too = significant. 


Jeff: Thanks for taking = us aboard the flight over the Ottawa River!

I am a relative new member on the = group, and are not on terms, with the FWF
installations of the members.

Is it possible to post some info of = your 13B installation and cowling?
 

Thanks Le Roux = Breytenbach

South Africa



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