X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=YcLDGDZf c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=pD3Rormsref9cAhgJAGCSw==:117 a=a0tTN4Y81LFB52JPoSU5RA==:17 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=DDNF8ybvv5wA:10 a=l697ptgUJYAA:10 a=1IlZJK9HAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=L8q9EnliAAAA:20 a=VMfTI8Ju9_rSVy5N-WcA:9 a=wEfyR1570OldUTDW:21 a=pYD1CJYU3gLkYlOr:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=OBS7UOprAAAA:20 a=nOfON1PeAAAA:20 a=i5JiQUPvAAAA:20 a=qNHfEig6AAAA:20 a=GsBbAObkO6ozVqRekTgA:9 a=5EL2190KDy6s-iVO:21 a=lJiDtWRbvBqiVPTf:21 a=xB6Tlbd9etFvbrXO:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=oJD61gEoyF4gH69-Jhd7:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 From: "Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com" Received: from mail-lj1-f175.google.com ([209.85.208.175] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 13500040 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 22:48:10 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.208.175; envelope-from=breytenbachleroux@gmail.com Received: by mail-lj1-f175.google.com with SMTP id y6so21237338lji.0 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 19:48:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject:message-id:date :to; bh=2e8hxZk4qNyC7kZOfynvBrdyWNM6EzH8v3c7D9PizC4=; b=KwALx8Cw7be//in9sbJczN5mHaRCCAblC+3VKmX6u2UlcQmcd2qkJ1/rPSdiG5TjXh GLm7Uk7UlNtCO7QYO6UZC374KI2eAKTiRMSgCAOCzJJ5wPTAAV2HssCFVWQvLv5S7WsU EmUAojcpeq7hTM2rsyvUf63ws8GYnCQm9/tnsBV8lugteN0e/NXEbh2RPsaiqiG6oncL slFS3A/sL0XOEXvRq8shJfeu7IdxKZ1Fd6+fYtXj2EU5HBNnvlOmejmFMTkN/8kLLaUB P26ke6CctZnMjZj2qzOg0dFm/NXZzDl8/LpHHh/fKshxqzjJhfGnlDGmCfQrSUPCoE0h xwHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version :subject:message-id:date:to; bh=2e8hxZk4qNyC7kZOfynvBrdyWNM6EzH8v3c7D9PizC4=; b=jOMCJYjRu6yUuz0RBwbzFCi5zCRDH7L5+9pnu3vI0cncbsS/g2IJsG7XbYmCGv8Dq2 FEQWKA1p4ko3B7vVvNWThf4hWT+Hl5v9ewyKmMLbLDIBXGs2Z0g30sCw3UNnv6K28ewy HV9tUeBLQgM6AvwcmrTAeFc4q0ULcKXz7GTelXMmZrber2XygeccrNhbOYXjackzlv3A Hw+MfX8HQ7CIFd+DDkwGniuNvEEd/YxXW4iC2Xz/mPlqSD+x28DzK5iNJayAgwz28SE+ qj7aGNwn5g1huHgpWmhUu0UlAIHlXlJ3/51fG7ysari0WGuojK4/xlvFQu5YtIzlln9P li+g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVehEXjc0V4z7EX761Hoe7XXQ1MgWg0I7xuiMjgNvK9lYe9TbQA +XxbGJ8OHy4EbGaFYohBtdAGPiC/HMc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx6xiM2X8NknUcFaHBJ0hq8gPTystxeERomUKweY6vqspzctNOSBQYqb7ZM40i54VVzswGi+g== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:884d:: with SMTP id z13mr11715249ljj.116.1581997673478; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 19:47:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [105.251.160.1] ([105.251.160.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v13sm1296090lfq.69.2020.02.17.19.47.52 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 17 Feb 2020 19:47:52 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5B51F9B1-1323-4DE5-9772-7FF6E2E95265 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Intake Plenum 13 B Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 05:47:35 +0200 To: Rotary motors in aircraft X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17D50) --Apple-Mail-5B51F9B1-1323-4DE5-9772-7FF6E2E95265 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BFErik: Building a Vision Ex the fuselage is so to speak finnished.Th= e ex version has a longer wingspan and more surface area on the rudder and e= levator.The longer wingspan compensates for "extra weight" so to speak. It is a plans build project with many building hours but at least i can buil= d, at my own budget and time. Planning to start building the wingspar still this summer season , nice hot a= nd dry weather in ZA Helped a friend on a BD4C project for 3 years and finished the project in 2= 012. It was the first project flying and completed in ZA of the BD 4 C version. Very fast aircraft ( taildragger) and is a high time plane that controls exc= ellent in flight.But be warned difficult to land (taildragger version) It wi= ll bite any pilot if there is a lack of concentration on landing! We won the President's Trophy Airrace with it in 2014 and finnished 7 th thi= s year. It has a lycoming IO 390 in it (210 hp) think that a renesis will do good as= the BD have lots of space firewall forward. Will post some photos to you in person, don't know if the group is the right= place for it las i don't know the rules =20 Cheers=20 Sent from my iPhone Le Roux Breytenbach=20 >> On 18 Feb 2020, at 04:20, Erik Snyman erik.snyman@bigpond.com wrote: > =EF=BB=BF > Le Roux, >=20 > I hear you. To me, the p/u version also makes more sense. PL was so agains= t it, though, that I thought it`s not worth doing. >=20 > What plane are you building? I am rebuilding a Bede BD4, and the rotary is= not off my menu.. I have a Conti io 470 for it, though. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Erik in Oz. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com" > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Monday, 17 Feb, 2020 At 5:16 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Intake Plenum 13 B >=20 >=20 > IMG_6871.HEIC >=20 > IMG_6869.HEIC >=20 > IMG_6870.HEIC >=20 > Erik :The plugs up version suites me better as there is for me more advant= ages than disadvantages. >=20 > If the intake manifold stands upright, then the throttle body is just in t= he right place, for the intake duct of the cowling and to make use of the ra= m air effect and simplicity of placing the air filter. >=20 > The hot exhaust exit, is in the middle under the engine, and with no compl= ex bends that must passes the engine mount spaceframe. The exhaust exits the= cowling on the same way than any other aircraft engine like lycoming or con= tinental. >=20 > The oil cooler sits under the psru as in the normal version , and the air p= asses through the oil cooler, helps with the removing of the radiant heat of= the exhaust as it is in the middle right behind the oil cooler. >=20 > The radiator can be side mount co-pilot side as there is enough space due t= o the side sump. >=20 > The gravity feed of oil that flows back to the side sump is in any way the= same as in a normal version. >=20 > I think that I don`t have to =E2=80=9Cinvent the wheel=E2=80=9D as it was b= een done before by a genius builder. >=20 > As Lynn E Hanover always says and I quote: I could be wrong! >=20 > Le Roux Breytenbach >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 4:00 AM Erik Snyman erik.snyman@bigpond.com wrote: >> =20 >> Hello Le Roux >>=20 >> Beautiful work. I find it interesting that you chose to do the plugs-up v= ersion. Any particular reason? >>=20 >> Erik in Oz. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com" >> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >> Sent: Sunday, 16 Feb, 2020 At 8:46 PM >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Intake Plenum 13 B >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BFCompleted the intake manifold for my 13B "plugs up" mount. >> Adjustable for the best performance (18 - 24 inch) then can be locked by s= ilicone 50 mm hose >> Next step to place the 4 injectors on the 44 mm intake runners. >>=20 >>=20 >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pn3iWOamh-KfVfaHtgaUg5HGT8dZSIpZ/view?us= p=3Ddrivesdk >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >> Le Roux Breytenbach=20 >> South Africa > =20 --Apple-Mail-5B51F9B1-1323-4DE5-9772-7FF6E2E95265 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=EF=BB=BFErik: Building a Visio= n Ex the fuselage is so to speak finnished.The ex version has a longer wings= pan and more surface area on the rudder and elevator.The longer wingspan com= pensates for "extra weight" so to speak.
It is a plans build project wit= h many building hours but at least i can build, at my own budget and time.
Planning to start building the wingspar still this summer season , ni= ce hot and dry weather in ZA

Helped a friend on a &= nbsp;BD4C project for 3 years and finished the project in 2012.
It= was the first project flying and completed in ZA of the BD 4 C version.
Very fast aircraft ( taildragger) and is a high time plane that contr= ols excellent in flight.But be warned difficult to land (taildragger version= ) It will bite any pilot if there is a lack of concentration on landing!
We won the President's Trophy Airrace with it in 2014 and finnished 7= th this year.
It has a lycoming IO 390 in it (210 hp) think that a= renesis will do good as the BD have lots of space firewall forward.
Will post some photos to you in person, don't know if the group is the ri= ght place for it las i don't know the rules  

=
Cheers 

Sent from my iPho= ne
Le Roux Breytenbach 

On 18 Feb 2020, at 04:20, Erik Snyman erik.snyman@bigpond.com= <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
Le Roux,

=
I hear you. To me, the p/u version also makes more sense. PL was so ag= ainst it, though, that I thought it`s not worth doing.

Wh= at plane are you building? I am rebuilding a Bede BD4, and the rotary is not= off my menu.. I have a Conti io 470 for it, though.

= Regards,

Erik in Oz.



------ Original Message ------
From: "Le Roux Breytenbac= h breytenbachleroux@gmail.com" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
To: "R= otary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Monda= y, 17 Feb, 2020 At 5:16 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Intake Plenum 13 B



 IMG_6870.HEIC

Erik :The plugs up version suites me better as there= is for me more advantages than disadvantages.

If the intake manifold= stands upright, then the throttle body is just in the right place, for the i= ntake duct of the cowling and to make use of the ram air effect and simplici= ty of placing the air filter.

The hot exhaust exit, is in the middle u= nder the engine, and with no complex bends that must passes the engine mount= spaceframe. The exhaust exits the cowling on the same way than any other ai= rcraft engine like lycoming or continental.

The oil cooler sits under= the psru as in the normal version , and the air passes through the oil cool= er, helps with the removing of the radiant heat of the exhaust as it is in t= he middle right behind the oil cooler.

The radiator can be side mount= co-pilot side as there is enough space due to the side sump.

The gra= vity feed of oil that flows back to the side sump is in any way the same as i= n a normal version.

I think that I don`t have to =E2=80=9Cinvent the w= heel=E2=80=9D as it was been done before by a genius builder.

As Lynn= E Hanover always says and I quote: I could be wrong!

Le Roux Breyten= bach


On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 4:00 AM Erik Snyman erik.snyman@bigpond.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
<= /div>
&= nbsp;  
Hello Le Roux

Beautiful work. I find it= interesting that you chose to do the plugs-up version. Any particular reaso= n?

Erik in Oz.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com" <f= lyrotary@lancaironline.net>
To: "Rotary motors= in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sunday, 16 Feb, 2020 At 8:46 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary]= Intake Plenum 13 B

=EF=BB=BFCompleted the intake manifold= for my 13B "plugs up" mount.
Adjustable for the best perfor= mance (18 - 24 inch) then can be locked by silicone 50 mm hose
Next step to place the 4 injectors on the 44 mm intake runners.


Sent from my iPhone
Le R= oux Breytenbach 
South Africa
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