X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=YcLDGDZf c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=4Z7bLzRdO3NTdMHb7ZukIA==:117 a=a0tTN4Y81LFB52JPoSU5RA==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=DDNF8ybvv5wA:10 a=l697ptgUJYAA:10 a=1IlZJK9HAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=L8q9EnliAAAA:20 a=VMfTI8Ju9_rSVy5N-WcA:9 a=wEfyR1570OldUTDW:21 a=pYD1CJYU3gLkYlOr:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=OBS7UOprAAAA:20 a=nOfON1PeAAAA:20 a=i5JiQUPvAAAA:20 a=qNHfEig6AAAA:20 a=GsBbAObkO6ozVqRekTgA:9 a=5EL2190KDy6s-iVO:21 a=lJiDtWRbvBqiVPTf:21 a=dCKAE7_tML1_4unx:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=oJD61gEoyF4gH69-Jhd7:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 From: "Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com" Received: from mail-lj1-f178.google.com ([209.85.208.178] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 13500049 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 22:48:08 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.208.178; envelope-from=breytenbachleroux@gmail.com Received: by mail-lj1-f178.google.com with SMTP id h23so21227338ljc.8 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 19:48:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject:date:message-id :references:in-reply-to:to; bh=AfPuBdDkLYN0A2BFycfxBup+e1yb3YYWpe44JeII32g=; b=eeyEQkurIafBj1WDCoaWBDlI0OK6VIxkvVA9jv9UevcJpUJGwu/gQ+wZ3+InNuaRdV pDhbu0ovOVBZj7eTETW2Ax+pbXHocQ08zWa7rxDQjUDBQMbq/mVdjjmCd+1oTqRIkzNM BhmVG3wLChCQGER9Krv6gv2iZD0XK6rgXXJEvgtb4InuPYCtCWVJJqO27iu0t3iUF3ta TfSK2CzGO1m3S7pMM5GNBl+O5EG05WFJZPITKpqq1vQu9LVfT9EaPTtk5ZVu71H1+ze6 mjgfSPj/Zsenvntsjw20966XAIF3A7Gjt0YVLu56mBlwn801bDNYu3swh2FQ2gBSNSWz 8Nng== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version :subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to:to; bh=AfPuBdDkLYN0A2BFycfxBup+e1yb3YYWpe44JeII32g=; b=gyGDtxCk4gzmoRwMQ1ZH53sATTSxYisOyq6eE3+jqeMYz8UygR0n1iwocsDihapgt3 ppAzKEvtZQQFAo4n5u2erBjBOorVAXXBxM8jvjVRhWz6O8BrNSrd7kkF+7YF2n3Qt/9c 24wfjJxQNU23kzo1Ym6azvg3SRC3jS7RXJKLPtmLmyhV47YafyFf2Un2VsWU+IinkPvj zjsXN1N0HChZJ0f/lBUyyx4OvUuhczC4+OUVxjvE9txR2RGE4OYp8o/MDqbOLBxwkSdK QFJGfcfML8n9rbtVHi0RA/7045+q2d88mJkeSBAYX1hffPtBLL451l9M/QAmqJ9W8y/8 Nkfw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAViprBHC6GBP5wM6X67/mxzv7YmMCEiMqumVUDjkT82T9YLdtfU B3EExkLjuX7giZIZyz6g1txepvbQtAg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxYZpPZbtNIxFinXy5O7I22tRInCp1JGgcxyOUU/E5WaCyF0MbS93ap9jTl6RTZZY8kU8sQHQ== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:300e:: with SMTP id w14mr11595974ljw.222.1581997670616; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 19:47:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [105.251.160.1] ([105.251.160.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b64sm1304748lfg.7.2020.02.17.19.47.49 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 17 Feb 2020 19:47:50 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1F9FABAE-732F-48EF-B87D-E797EAC95E53 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Intake Plenum 13 B Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 05:46:22 +0200 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: To: Rotary motors in aircraft X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17D50) --Apple-Mail-1F9FABAE-732F-48EF-B87D-E797EAC95E53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Erik: Building a Vision Ex the fuselage is so to speak finnished.The ex vers= ion has a longer wingspan and more surface area on the rudder and elevator.T= he longer wingspan compensates for "extra weight" so to speak. It is a plans build project with many building hours but at least i can buil= d, at my own budget and time. Planning to start building the wingspar still this summer season , nice hot a= nd dry weather in ZA Helped a friend on a BD4C project for 3 years and finished the project in 2= 012. It was the first project flying and completed in ZA of the BD 4 C version. Very fast aircraft ( taildragger) and is a high time plane that controls exc= ellent in flight.But be warned difficult to land (taildragger version) It wi= ll bite any pilot if there is a lack of concentration on landing! We won the President's Trophy Airrace with it in 2014 and finnished 7 th thi= s year. It has a lycoming IO 390 in it (210 hp) think that a renesis will do good as= the BD have lots of space firewall forward. Will post some photos to you in person, don't know if the group is the right= place for it las i don't know the rules =20 Cheers=20 Sent from my iPhone Le Roux Breytenbach=20 > On 18 Feb 2020, at 04:20, Erik Snyman erik.snyman@bigpond.com wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > Le Roux, >=20 > I hear you. To me, the p/u version also makes more sense. PL was so agains= t it, though, that I thought it`s not worth doing. >=20 > What plane are you building? I am rebuilding a Bede BD4, and the rotary is= not off my menu.. I have a Conti io 470 for it, though. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Erik in Oz. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com" > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Monday, 17 Feb, 2020 At 5:16 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Intake Plenum 13 B >=20 >=20 > IMG_6871.HEIC >=20 > IMG_6869.HEIC >=20 > IMG_6870.HEIC >=20 > Erik :The plugs up version suites me better as there is for me more advant= ages than disadvantages. >=20 > If the intake manifold stands upright, then the throttle body is just in t= he right place, for the intake duct of the cowling and to make use of the ra= m air effect and simplicity of placing the air filter. >=20 > The hot exhaust exit, is in the middle under the engine, and with no compl= ex bends that must passes the engine mount spaceframe. The exhaust exits the= cowling on the same way than any other aircraft engine like lycoming or con= tinental. >=20 > The oil cooler sits under the psru as in the normal version , and the air p= asses through the oil cooler, helps with the removing of the radiant heat of= the exhaust as it is in the middle right behind the oil cooler. >=20 > The radiator can be side mount co-pilot side as there is enough space due t= o the side sump. >=20 > The gravity feed of oil that flows back to the side sump is in any way the= same as in a normal version. >=20 > I think that I don`t have to =E2=80=9Cinvent the wheel=E2=80=9D as it was b= een done before by a genius builder. >=20 > As Lynn E Hanover always says and I quote: I could be wrong! >=20 > Le Roux Breytenbach >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 4:00 AM Erik Snyman erik.snyman@bigpond.com wrote: >> =20 >> Hello Le Roux >>=20 >> Beautiful work. I find it interesting that you chose to do the plugs-up v= ersion. Any particular reason? >>=20 >> Erik in Oz. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com" >> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >> Sent: Sunday, 16 Feb, 2020 At 8:46 PM >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Intake Plenum 13 B >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BFCompleted the intake manifold for my 13B "plugs up" mount. >> Adjustable for the best performance (18 - 24 inch) then can be locked by s= ilicone 50 mm hose >> Next step to place the 4 injectors on the 44 mm intake runners. >>=20 >>=20 >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pn3iWOamh-KfVfaHtgaUg5HGT8dZSIpZ/view?us= p=3Ddrivesdk >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >> Le Roux Breytenbach=20 >> South Africa > =20 --Apple-Mail-1F9FABAE-732F-48EF-B87D-E797EAC95E53 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Erik: Building a Vision Ex the fuselage is s= o to speak finnished.The ex version has a longer wingspan and more surface a= rea on the rudder and elevator.The longer wingspan compensates for "extra we= ight" so to speak.
It is a plans build project with many building hours b= ut at least i can build, at my own budget and time.
Planning to star= t building the wingspar still this summer season , nice hot and dry weather i= n ZA

Helped a friend on a  BD4C project for 3 y= ears and finished the project in 2012.
It was the first project fl= ying and completed in ZA of the BD 4 C version.
Very fast aircraft= ( taildragger) and is a high time plane that controls excellent in flight.B= ut be warned difficult to land (taildragger version) It will bite any pilot i= f there is a lack of concentration on landing!
We won the Presiden= t's Trophy Airrace with it in 2014 and finnished 7 th this year.
I= t has a lycoming IO 390 in it (210 hp) think that a renesis will do good as t= he BD have lots of space firewall forward.
Will post some photos t= o you in person, don't know if the group is the right place for it las i don= 't know the rules  


Cheers = ;

Sent from my iPhone
Le Roux Breytenbach=  

On 18 Feb 2= 020, at 04:20, Erik Snyman erik.snyman@bigpond.com <flyrotary@lancaironli= ne.net> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
Le Roux,

I hear you. To me, t= he p/u version also makes more sense. PL was so against it, though, that I t= hought it`s not worth doing.

What plane are you building?= I am rebuilding a Bede BD4, and the rotary is not off my menu.. I have a Co= nti io 470 for it, though.

Regards,

Erik in Oz.



------ Or= iginal Message ------
From: "Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.= com" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" &= lt;flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Monday, 17 Feb, 2020 At 5:16 PM<= br>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Intake Plenum 13 B


 IMG_6871.HEIC

 IMG_6869.HEIC=


Erik= :The plugs up version suites me better as there is for me more advantages t= han disadvantages.

If the intake manifold stands upright, then the th= rottle body is just in the right place, for the intake duct of the cowling a= nd to make use of the ram air effect and simplicity of placing the air filte= r.

The hot exhaust exit, is in the middle under the engine, and with n= o complex bends that must passes the engine mount spaceframe. The exhaust ex= its the cowling on the same way than any other aircraft engine like lycoming= or continental.

The oil cooler sits under the psru as in the normal v= ersion , and the air passes through the oil cooler, helps with the removing o= f the radiant heat of the exhaust as it is in the middle right behind the oi= l cooler.

The radiator can be side mount co-pilot side as there is en= ough space due to the side sump.

The gravity feed of oil that flows b= ack to the side sump is in any way the same as in a normal version.

I= think that I don`t have to =E2=80=9Cinvent the wheel=E2=80=9D as it was bee= n done before by a genius builder.

As Lynn E Hanover always says and I= quote: I could be wrong!

Le Roux Breytenbach


On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 4:0= 0 AM Erik Snyman erik.snyman@bigpond.com <flyrotary@lancairon= line.net> wrote:
   
Hello Le R= oux

Beautiful work. I find it interesting that you chose t= o do the plugs-up version. Any particular reason?

E= rik in Oz.



------ Original Message= ------
From: "Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.= com" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sunday,= 16 Feb, 2020 At 8:46 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Intake Plenum 13 B

<= div>=EF=BB=BFCompleted the intake manifold for my 13B "plugs up" mount= .
Adjustable for the best performance (18 - 24 inch) then ca= n be locked by silicone 50 mm hose
Next step to place the 4 i= njectors on the 44 mm intake runners.



Sent from my iPhone
Le Roux Breytenbach 
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