X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=G+5i7Os5 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=5wNcWHnBwY2TRvF/yCySaA==:117 a=x57nfhxTxN48ZNL6nNUMAg==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=K7ySfSCCDxUA:10 a=XobE76Q3jBoA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=_EeEMxcBAAAA:8 a=on22okXAAAAA:8 a=x-75qrxFAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=phg6BF-BWHFbbAsrnXYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=4dD1_qPv2cwA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=xDOOTrvONMwA:10 a=5UeK9suJl1gA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=twcZbTbRerWAp1ZyabgA:9 a=lDNl2lIEhZKvKMjIUR5gOGDH5rM=:19 a=ZAKWWEAnjfhPOXZ3:21 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=syqr5EOPB93U0NEwqYpB:22 a=NPqpj5bUEVj9vR1HIonK:22 a=pSfGKr4syse1NfsQC3dY:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com" Received: from mail-vk1-f181.google.com ([209.85.221.181] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 13024048 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 02 Oct 2019 21:07:43 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.221.181; envelope-from=mattboiteau@gmail.com Received: by mail-vk1-f181.google.com with SMTP id f1so259123vkh.9 for ; Wed, 02 Oct 2019 18:07:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references :user-agent; bh=8skHY2SjanLlSEKoe05SIvG2ZCZzaoHiWuA542eomFU=; b=NNPSNERVXjs293Uh+NQ//k9t5M16m+mdipms42YDFykgcr6t1zg0P7tuMrYnJaYpFI rZ0x/5pxj4uECKl3/Qu7dS7lMeoobDBO5h1sOjn+P8UlGOStZAu+SJiVqxv5sF9zEP5c KNL2Ky5b1hJAZzeLOqxCAOGRGmH0ntambZhDvMBhPYm51COU63Sg8mnupSFDruzEJcbK vIhBJgkhIgM6cAQ7aF5gINGHqKZXPFKlrocAH7i33WsQDnjSE9ZnKiBOq+9B5rrFG1H0 ypqeXdQd/fGuWyhXCkmN7gMFTRYGzg+gG+SsMYwYxLboGyH22Q2r82Q18JJRvO7pNbmV F6wg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :in-reply-to:references:user-agent; bh=8skHY2SjanLlSEKoe05SIvG2ZCZzaoHiWuA542eomFU=; b=TY9d+pniNyy5yA6aTPkB1ZXqGaVR/MacR4WoBQI316GU7WJfDMDjBFFTvaQROdDHEb NMTIVfPuLUMoz3NYcnf0XAYpZsi6Tr30FjrnjqWvioClsK+D8owyJ+d9VCpOnvI+hN/+ RaGblLbeCIIKtGKp8eARr6mf0+kkgpFReZDt5BaZ0moiK+nSumCIM8sJAefK5U3qFCs3 1sWstdQgEP7j4pjxBIO0Mgq0648lyoWJpYYxjAFBrQqLBRwFzvfYZI8jFov8tLMeYVL2 MOC8+o0/JGuMBnzt6B/tl/5YXh4e3K/xxG9rH9mHDwEK54f3HW4hXSa5Z2U2TEJssSMt Fqfw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVP2yYeanKPB/2jovoUe2bvE5+46Koyx35Tw63th8FEV9D8ZdnP F6ZCJB78u5Lrn8cnqmj7nqZaYTLx+Lk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzoTa14YRAiENRU9wsGdR8zE1m6YleQ4ee1mWrFCNTjJ95TqlDHWXcVKhpyzpxktd95HQZ3qQ== X-Received: by 2002:a1f:3cc9:: with SMTP id j192mr3745482vka.58.1570064847088; Wed, 02 Oct 2019 18:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.0.151] ([71.214.25.204]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r9sm205115vkf.17.2019.10.02.18.07.25 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 02 Oct 2019 18:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_22739599.108289228149" MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2019 21:07:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Rebuilt and stuck apex seal To: "Rob McMillan robmcmillanpls@gmail.com" In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Mailbird/2.5.43.0 X-Mailbird-ID: b25cf2ec-2f55-4690-ba44-4ad936d78a17@getmailbird.com ------=_NextPart_22739599.108289228149 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Williston, FL 32696 Only until the 13th, then I'll head back home to Canada.=C2=A0 Thanks Lynn for the details. I'm getting sick of cleaning Hylmor on the ori= ngs, so I may scrape it next. I found Crisco works very well on the rotors = to keep things in place. - Matt Boiteau On 2019-10-02 8:42:25 PM, Rob McMillan robmcmillanpls@gmail.com wrote: Matt, where are you located? On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com [mailto:mat= tboiteau@gmail.com] wrote: The corner seal broke in 2, and the center button took a spin out. Not sure= what happen when rebuilding it. Took time and everything went together wel= l. Apex seals are all good, rotor housing and iron look fine. 2008 rx8 auto 6 port were covered with Devcon steel putty. Not completely f= lush to iron surface, left indented 1/8" down. I think I'm going to get a used JDM 4port engine and re-use the front\rear = rotors and counter balance only. Keep my highpower eshaft (if there is even= a different in eshafts between 6port and 4port). I may have to press in ne= w rotor bearings for the high power (yellows) Lots to think about. - Matt Boiteau On 2019-10-02 3:56:56 PM, Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com [= mailto:breytenbachleroux@gmail.com] wrote: Hi Matt- Sorry to hear about your problems.You said that the front rotar is= toast.Can you be more specific in the looks of the front rotar please. You mentioned that you have a p port intake.The old side intakes in the cen= tre and end plates did you fill it up with some sort of fillermaterial? Get Outlook for iOS [https://aka.ms/o0ukef] From: Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf of Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com [ma= ilto:mattboiteau@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 6:59 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rebuilt and stuck apex seal It was from the Rotary Aviation master rebuild kit for RX8, so OEM 2 piece.= Not sure if I re-installed it wrong or put in the wrong side seal, or if i= t was weak from the overheating previously. Not sure, lots of different rea= sons why it could of happened. Looking at getting rid of the RA super seals and going back to stock OEM ap= ex seals and side seals by the letter instead of cutting them. Only need 1 = rotor, but by the time you add everything up, it's almost cheaper to buy an= engine and just re-use the rotors. - Matt Boiteau On 2019-10-02 8:49:31 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com [mailto:ste= phen.izett@gmail.com] wrote: Hi Matt. Sorry to hear of your setback. I to would have been flying many years ago If had gone the Lyc path. But I am finally in Phase 1 after 13 years and its looking good. Cheers Steve > On 2 Oct 2019, at 7:57 pm, Jeff Whaley jwhaley@datacast.com [mailto:jwhal= ey@datacast.com] wrote: > > Hi Matt, sorry to hear about your troubles and the broken corner seal. Wa= s it the "solid" type or the one with a rubber insert? > I went the solid type from Atkins Rotary on my last rebuild. https://www.= atkinsrotary.com/store/86-95-Rx7-2mm-Solid-Corner-Seal-Set-ARE88.html [http= s://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/86-95-Rx7-2mm-Solid-Corner-Seal-Set-ARE88.ht= ml] > Jeff > > Corner seal broke in two. Rotor housing looks good, apex seals look good,= but front rotor is toast. I could of been flying a few years ago, if I did= n't go down this Rotary path.... > > - Matt Boiteau > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ [http://www.flyrotary.com/] > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.= html [http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html] -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ [http://www.flyrotary.com/] Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.ht= ml [http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html] -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ [http://www.flyrotary.com/] Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.ht= ml [http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html] ------=_NextPart_22739599.108289228149 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Williston, FL
32696

Only = until the 13th, then I'll head back home to Canada. 

Thanks Lynn for the details. I'm getting sick of cleaning Hylmor on the o= rings, so I may scrape it next. I found Crisco works very well on the rotor= s to keep things in place.

- Matt= Boiteau

On 2= 019-10-02 8:42:25 PM, Rob McMillan robmcmillanpls@gmail.com <flyrotary@l= ancaironline.net> wrote:

Matt, where are=C2=A0you located?

On Wed, Oct 2,= 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Boiteau mattbo= iteau@gmail.com <flyr= otary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

2008 rx8 auto 6 port were covered with Devcon st= eel putty. Not completely flush to iron surface, left indented 1/8" do= wn.

<= span style=3D"font-size: 13.3333px">I think I'm going to get a used JDM= 4port engine and re-use the front\rear rotors and counter=C2=A0balance=C2=A0only. Keep my highpower=C2=A0eshaft (if th= ere is even a different in eshafts between 6port and 4port). I may have to = press in new rotor bearings for the high power (yellows) Lots to think abou= t.

- Matt Boiteau

On 2019-= 10-02 3:56:56 PM, Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com<= /a> <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Hi Matt- Sorry to hear about your problems.You= said that the front rotar is toast.Can you be more specific in the looks o= f the front rotar please.
You mentioned that you have a p port intake.Th= e old side intakes in the centre and end plates did you fill it up with som= e sort of fillermaterial?

=C2=A0
From: Rotary motors= in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> on behalf of = Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironl= ine.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 6:59 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rebuilt and stuck apex seal
=C2=A0
It was from the Rotary Aviation master rebuild kit for RX8, so OEM 2 piece.= Not sure if I re-installed it wrong or put in the wrong side seal, or if i= t was weak from the overheating previously. Not sure, lots of different rea= sons why it could of happened.

Looking at getting rid of the RA super seals and going back to stock OEM ap= ex seals and side seals by the letter instead of cutting them. Only need 1 = rotor, but by the time you add everything up, it's almost cheaper to bu= y an engine and just re-use the rotors.

- Matt Boiteau

On 2019-10-02 8:49:31 AM, Stephe= n Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironli= ne.net> wrote:

Hi Matt.
Sorry to hear of your setback.
I to would have been flying many years ago If had gone the Lyc path.
But I am finally in Phase 1 after 13 years and its looking good.

Cheers

Steve

> On 2 Oct 2019, at 7:57 pm, Jeff Whaley jwhaley@datacast.com wrot= e:
>
> Hi Matt, sorry to hear about your troubles and the broken corner seal.= Was it the "solid" type or the one with a rubber insert?
> I went the solid type from Atkins Rotary on my last rebuild. https://www.atkinsrotary.c= om/store/86-95-Rx7-2mm-Solid-Corner-Seal-Set-ARE88.html
> Jeff
>
> Corner seal broke in two. Rotor housing looks good, apex seals look go= od, but front rotor is toast. I could of been flying a few years ago, if I = didn't go down this Rotary path....
>
> - Matt Boiteau
>
>
>
> --
> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/
> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancai= ronline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html


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