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On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > The corner seal broke in 2, and the center button took a spin out. Not > sure what happen when rebuilding it. Took time and everything went together > well. Apex seals are all good, rotor housing and iron look fine. > > 2008 rx8 auto 6 port were covered with Devcon steel putty. Not completely > flush to iron surface, left indented 1/8" down. > > I think I'm going to get a used JDM 4port engine and re-use the front\rear > rotors and counter balance only. Keep my highpower eshaft (if there is > even a different in eshafts between 6port and 4port). I may have to press > in new rotor bearings for the high power (yellows) Lots to think about. > > - Matt Boiteau > > On 2019-10-02 3:56:56 PM, Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com > wrote: > Hi Matt- Sorry to hear about your problems.You said that the front rotar > is toast.Can you be more specific in the looks of the front rotar please. > You mentioned that you have a p port intake.The old side intakes in the > centre and end plates did you fill it up with some sort of fillermaterial? > > Get Outlook for iOS > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf > of Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 2, 2019 6:59 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rebuilt and stuck apex seal > > It was from the Rotary Aviation master rebuild kit for RX8, so OEM 2 > piece. Not sure if I re-installed it wrong or put in the wrong side seal, > or if it was weak from the overheating previously. Not sure, lots of > different reasons why it could of happened. > > Looking at getting rid of the RA super seals and going back to stock OEM > apex seals and side seals by the letter instead of cutting them. Only need > 1 rotor, but by the time you add everything up, it's almost cheaper to buy > an engine and just re-use the rotors. > > - Matt Boiteau > > On 2019-10-02 8:49:31 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com < > flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Hi Matt. > Sorry to hear of your setback. > I to would have been flying many years ago If had gone the Lyc path. > But I am finally in Phase 1 after 13 years and its looking good. > > Cheers > > Steve > > > On 2 Oct 2019, at 7:57 pm, Jeff Whaley jwhaley@datacast.com wrote: > > > > Hi Matt, sorry to hear about your troubles and the broken corner seal. > Was it the "solid" type or the one with a rubber insert? > > I went the solid type from Atkins Rotary on my last rebuild. > https://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/86-95-Rx7-2mm-Solid-Corner-Seal-Set-ARE88.html > > Jeff > > > > Corner seal broke in two. Rotor housing looks good, apex seals look > good, but front rotor is toast. I could of been flying a few years ago, if > I didn't go down this Rotary path.... > > > > - Matt Boiteau > > > > > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --000000000000fbe6260593f6d474 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Matt, where are=C2=A0you located?

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 2:3= 5 PM Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmai= l.com <flyrotary@lanc= aironline.net> wrote:
The corner seal broke in 2, and the center button took a spin out. Not sur= e what happen when rebuilding it. Took time and everything went together we= ll. Apex seals are all good, rotor housing and iron look fine.

2008 rx8 auto 6 port were covered with Devcon stee= l putty. Not completely flush to iron surface, left indented 1/8" down= .

I think I'm going to get a used JDM 4po= rt engine and re-use the front\rear rotors and counter=C2=A0balance=C2=A0only. Keep my highpower=C2=A0eshaft (if there is = even a different in eshafts between 6port and 4port). I may have to press i= n new rotor bearings for the high power (yellows) Lots to think about.

- Matt Boiteau

On 2019-= 10-02 3:56:56 PM, Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com<= /a> <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Hi Matt- Sorry to hear about your problems.You= said that the front rotar is toast.Can you be more specific in the looks o= f the front rotar please.
You mentioned that you have a p port intake.Th= e old side intakes in the centre and end plates did you fill it up with som= e sort of fillermaterial?

=C2=A0
From: Rotary motors= in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> on behalf of = Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironl= ine.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 6:59 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rebuilt and stuck apex seal
=C2=A0
It was from the Rotary Aviation master rebuild kit for RX8, so OEM 2 piece.= Not sure if I re-installed it wrong or put in the wrong side seal, or if i= t was weak from the overheating previously. Not sure, lots of different rea= sons why it could of happened.

Looking at getting rid of the RA super seals and going back to stock OEM ap= ex seals and side seals by the letter instead of cutting them. Only need 1 = rotor, but by the time you add everything up, it's almost cheaper to bu= y an engine and just re-use the rotors.

- Matt Boiteau

On 2019-10-02 8:49:31 AM, Stephe= n Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironli= ne.net> wrote:

Hi Matt.
Sorry to hear of your setback.
I to would have been flying many years ago If had gone the Lyc path.
But I am finally in Phase 1 after 13 years and its looking good.

Cheers

Steve

> On 2 Oct 2019, at 7:57 pm, Jeff Whaley jwhaley@datacast.com wrot= e:
>
> Hi Matt, sorry to hear about your troubles and the broken corner seal.= Was it the "solid" type or the one with a rubber insert?
> I went the solid type from Atkins Rotary on my last rebuild. https://www.atkinsrotary.c= om/store/86-95-Rx7-2mm-Solid-Corner-Seal-Set-ARE88.html
> Jeff
>
> Corner seal broke in two. Rotor housing looks good, apex seals look go= od, but front rotor is toast. I could of been flying a few years ago, if I = didn't go down this Rotary path....
>
> - Matt Boiteau
>
>
>
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