X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "William Jepson" Received: from mail-ua0-f172.google.com ([209.85.217.172] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.14) with ESMTPS id 9443691 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 08 Feb 2017 12:59:13 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.217.172; envelope-from=wrjjrs@gmail.com Received: by mail-ua0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 96so115373006uaq.3 for ; Wed, 08 Feb 2017 09:59:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=6APB9RAIViv1OsaiAx/tnEWmP/j6GpPqUCNFylRu8Qw=; b=JnePPfLuYWASZ1qr/fmMSGpV20FlAtuMlTzkFIF4K/y9s+ZAY/F3zCadnHHKdFuc1A k35C0WpUOXVaHrV4DXymi44NtsVeWekwcrlSGJEUwcC+hFjmkcbntM5laSJuU5zw5aF9 6MU6xchmsqUNkHelRz0hmtTxOGL6MdbbD3ir29nsG4sc6ER5aaYJI/Y+Lx4IwHgqJHCU MbyQyg+gRgWNhXs9I3TYZtSYz/voREKcGe8DHOvV2y40Cs0ly32Jx4UWkQMKDt3zXoqU NvzClX2ibO6l8WeIRKiReIzPSwL3DZjSWhE3Njssm6i74LFUNBTcKE0XPu+Dd+FnlPT2 9YPQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=6APB9RAIViv1OsaiAx/tnEWmP/j6GpPqUCNFylRu8Qw=; b=i/ZP6kg+jiTJRuKvH7TjlVc2v2M6TGusJ94EsP3C8TFnUoXFWSLAiGQWvhWgyRWdVb VBzvxAklM+A5h5rIc46VpvnpU3gOZzAMoYvKeQ3TqfILzR7QxXspL2jCX6D7t485bBdn 4q+sR3VxjSWfPYQf0WQjA4PX/RZc58L/l1VWverdErAWUypPfgOuAXL9d1O0RNVTP7b2 RithWHD9pXlvMexv5DH4Kz3AzqIPBoaDT97paCO0HCNhwo1ZdVyzKlt9Z8LkRhK4Stzd RCWy0UFnsGYsOldniqdbaogkJh+LO0uUGpuGpG5T+9dvzGELOPKVwfX4gRrI9ffJRrvy /Zwg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39lDwx8ugBxlgObvQCutAnO9I8qplpKOkPGrc/ZEZHAY//Ih3PfIZFTtvoNxkPQTTDJTgr6crHKbn4E+eQ== X-Received: by 10.176.1.79 with SMTP id 73mr11302065uak.170.1486576733120; Wed, 08 Feb 2017 09:58:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.56.18 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 09:58:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 09:58:52 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Bill's P-Port Efforts To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1141482c1bf2320548089e68 --001a1141482c1bf2320548089e68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Richard, That is a small port effort. We have another set of housings with larger ports, ( but not monstrous like the car guys use ), that we expect will easily get into the 240-250 HP range. We still intend to limit top RPM to just about 7000. The rotary is all about breathing. If you want best power at a lower RPM getting the intake length right is critically important. The length on the engine in the video is actually a bit short of optimum because of fitting it inside the cowl. I also intend to do an all electronic engine too. The current engine is at the specifications of the original PowerSport engines before that company was sold. It uses am aircraft mechanical FI, and a simple electronic ignition. I like the electronic fuel injection and or engine management system from SDSEFI in Canada. Ross the owner speaks airplane and has the ability to individually tune the injectors so each rotor (or cylinder) will peak at the same time and his system is easy to adjust. He also will provide it with a manual leaning control for aircraft. Ross did the engine management system for the Questair Venture that won the Sport Class at Reno a few years ago. So he speaks airplane very well. If you use this type of system you can get better mileage, smoother running, and easier starting. We just haven't had the time to set up with one yet. If you do go for a electronically controlled engine be certain to plan for a small backup battery should you have a charging failure. The P-port rotary is an excellent package for an airplane, you just need to plan for it like anything else. I'm looking at the possibility of redoing the reduction drive, but I need to have several things quoted before I can be sure if the cost is low enough to make the investment for such a small market. Bill On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 4:34 AM, Richard Van Camp < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Bill, > > This looks quite good. Good luck. I will keep checking the website. The > 195 hp is a good number for me but, I might like to see more if possible. > That may become my issue to solve. > > > Rick > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net: > 81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --001a1141482c1bf2320548089e68 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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That is a small port effort. We have an= other set of housings with larger ports, ( but not monstrous like the car g= uys use ), that we expect will easily get into the 240-250 HP range. We sti= ll intend to limit top RPM to just about 7000. The rotary is all about brea= thing. If you want best power at a lower RPM getting the intake length righ= t is critically important. The length on the engine in the video is actuall= y a bit short of optimum because of fitting it inside the cowl. I also inte= nd to do an all electronic engine too. The current engine is at the specifi= cations of the original PowerSport engines before that company was sold. It= uses am aircraft mechanical FI, and a simple electronic ignition. I like t= he electronic fuel injection and or engine management system from SDSEFI in= Canada. Ross the owner speaks airplane and has the ability to individually= tune the injectors so each rotor (or cylinder) will peak at the same time = and his system is easy to adjust. He also will provide it with a manual lea= ning control for aircraft. Ross did the engine management system for the Qu= estair Venture that won the Sport Class at Reno a few years ago. So he spea= ks airplane very well. If you use this type of system you can get better mi= leage, smoother running, and easier starting. We just haven't had the t= ime to set up with one yet. If you do go for a electronically controlled en= gine be certain to plan for a small backup battery should you have a chargi= ng failure. The P-port rotary is an excellent package for an airplane, you = just need to plan for it like anything else. I'm looking at the possibi= lity of redoing the reduction drive, but I need to have several things quot= ed before I can be sure if the cost is low enough to make the investment fo= r such a small market.=C2=A0

Bill

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at= 4:34 AM, Richard Van Camp <flyrotary@lancaironline.net><= /span> wrote:
Bill,

This looks quite good.=C2=A0 Good luck.=C2=A0 I will keep checking the webs= ite.=C2=A0 The 195 hp is a good number for me but, I might like to see more= if possible.=C2=A0 That may become my issue to solve.


Rick

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