X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Todd Archer" Received: from mail-pf0-f178.google.com ([209.85.192.178] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.14) with ESMTPS id 9436882 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 13:39:09 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.192.178; envelope-from=archerwt@gmail.com Received: by mail-pf0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 189so25876713pfu.3 for ; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:39:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:references:to:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to; bh=cyR8g1cpWGPGTInKg86svZokfcAI102dS4RXKHoelHk=; b=t6VI5fJL3qYB6xIWm3NjG6d7AiPB15Y6GGQGAefg3pq+5GYO6i7Ea+7CzL1i9afUt3 46K27FTWCjpbuu9nL+2Le47ec4Q97Gj7sdbnZuYjcXboGpuXeE8RxOF+evrXnuQxgufF UoaO3Qq5mQem4oyc3Jp02YzBmy155DHy+nvS7aODC4+zIN8VTi9cJ/Z/dVLGyEt/Scmg Bch3YdbsDcTrL2wWy76coQs06oMxguTFzqQo/v3ouDkA1gVor2EtE9uoEroEvbivNVBB 9cx3SrbZooL295WIFGbJYnQNRdjKb+7cZ3geIaya4E58bJcTRwZgeoRYugVzbuqjGAzA tMgA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:references:to:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=cyR8g1cpWGPGTInKg86svZokfcAI102dS4RXKHoelHk=; b=El1yYdX2+437AlP5wyu5dOSeFf7d+XbFw6T8uUA4urmpRDtfiSxb+5SEwi4NM92ssr +kzKRMyguBIBwMj5ffWRzKQ+J1XoqjRDmwM5BoYPtCdltXlRGTvx2XNQCKdI68izn+RC kJYOkPz0GBvlqEpW09kUJ5ObYTLtsvBIdxIePKq/AjLgC+iWiLk2YzbGwzsKJvWNwPdY MTMJB0zFzGeFbAhHDNfZvdWDlL3xhYN8HXaAG8EqHx0RAby97Itz5NmWl0izDUgLZdPq fuvwuhGxPS4ZukoaT2JjJ8qM9nUNiJljOcnb8mbP/vU4qARHpBmxidya0wP871R6cGlW 8ktQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJa0hFB/ozOQ27mXJ+5vNkqL5oGaws/fFNFsiwfuxR962oeQrIpW3WQEixlB/gSSw== X-Received: by 10.84.141.1 with SMTP id 1mr19640482plu.33.1486406323222; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:38:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.14] (216-67-43-131-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net. [216.67.43.131]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 82sm4416833pge.42.2017.02.06.10.38.42 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:38:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Fwd: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 3-generation Template Source References: <876e1595-4170-d610-e8ad-9c285fa6330c@gmail.com> To: ACRE X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <876e1595-4170-d610-e8ad-9c285fa6330c@gmail.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:38:41 -0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <876e1595-4170-d610-e8ad-9c285fa6330c@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------F2C079E0C86727F95B5C5B38" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F2C079E0C86727F95B5C5B38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not incredibly experienced with porting but have done street ports (side) and peripheral ports. The templates are needed for street and bridge ports because it ends up being an odd shape and the shape on the iron is all-important. Of course, the same is true of the p-ports but the placement is effectively zero-dimensional. It requires as much precision as can be had but it just starts with a point on the housing and has a specific diameter. Assuming you are going round (instead of squarish) and and at 90 degrees to engine orientation, there's not much to the placement. The caveat is your diameter will determine your port opening/closing so your placement and your diameter must both be planned. https://www.mazdatrix.com/pictures/11023.jpg So these are big ports milled at an angle other than 90. On the outside, it starts higher that where it actually ends up inside housing (where it counts). Looks to be a 2" port. http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/fd20na/13b-re%20rew%20race%20engine%20build/DSC02923.jpg This is a semi-pport so it continues to use the side ports, too. This one obviously centered right in the middle of the casting bullseye and are at 90 degrees but only a 1" port. I won't tell you where exactly to poke the hole but there are some good examples out there that will allow you to precisely replicate placement. Todd On 2/6/2017 5:58 AM, Charlie England wrote: > Guys, I think that all those links are for side port porting; I think > he asked for a P-port template. > > Charlie --------------F2C079E0C86727F95B5C5B38 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Not incredibly experienced with porting but have done street ports (side) and peripheral ports.  The templates are needed for street and bridge ports because it ends up being an odd shape and the shape on the iron is all-important.  Of course, the same is true of the p-ports but the placement is effectively zero-dimensional.  It requires as much precision as can be had but it just starts with a point on the housing and has a specific diameter.  Assuming you are going round (instead of squarish) and and at 90 degrees to engine orientation, there's not much to the placement.  The caveat is your diameter will determine your port opening/closing so your placement and your diameter must both be planned. 

https://www.mazdatrix.com/pictures/11023.jpg
So these are big ports milled at an angle other than 90.  On the outside, it starts higher that where it actually ends up inside housing (where it counts).  Looks to be a 2" port.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/fd20na/13b-re%20rew%20race%20engine%20build/DSC02923.jpg
This is a semi-pport so it continues to use the side ports, too.  This one obviously centered right in the middle of the casting bullseye and are at 90 degrees but only a 1" port.

I won't tell you where exactly to poke the hole but there are some good examples out there that will allow you to precisely replicate placement.

Todd




On 2/6/2017 5:58 AM, Charlie England wrote:
Guys, I think that all those links are for side port porting; I think he asked for a P-port template.

Charlie


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