Charlie If your eyes are good enough you can jsu see the threads on the inlet P port plugs. They are joined with the clamp to the TB's. I Have another close up I will try and find. Neil On 10/17/2016 2:33 PM, Charlie England wrote: And total size of the email must be less than 200K, if memory serves. Do you have any image resizing software? Charlie (wanting to see details on those screw-in P-ports) On 10/16/2016 10:26 PM, Neil Unger wrote: Chris, Only one Pic per email seems to be the go, Neil On 10/17/2016 2:07 PM, Christian And Tam wrote: No worries Do you have a personal email as I can't seem to post to this forum with pics Cheers Sent from my iPhone On 17 Oct 2016, at 6:34 am, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Christian What manifold pressure do you see at idle? I would love to see a few pictures of your FWF. Bobby Sent from my iPad On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Hi Bobby I went for a single 90mm tb and plenum over the opposite side of the motor and seems to work well, idles at approx 2150 and happily there. Could get lower but prop speed is low enough. Cheers Christian On Monday, 17 October 2016, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Individual TB's were used so they could be located as close to the block as possible for improved idle and throttle response. Idle is still at 18" MP cold and a little lower after warm up. The renesis should have little or no overlap so the single throttle body before the intake manifold appears to work well. Sale is pending for second buyer. Not sure if engine is staying with the plane or being removed. Bobby Sent from my iPad > On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > > Bobby, > Do you know why he did the three TBs and not a plenum with one TB? > Also I thought I saw where the sale of his plane was pending. What is going on there? Was it sold as a flying plane or did you remove the engine? > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:50 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis Update- for Neil Unger > > Mark Steitle experienced sticky slide throttle. He modified it several times and eventually switched to one butterfly TB per rotor. > > Bobby > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >> >> Doug, Had severe problems with a slide throttle, went with butterfly and no problems since. Neil. >> >> >>> On 10/16/2016 7:07 PM, Doug Lomheim wrote: >>> Hi Neil: >>> >>> I have read where some P-Port attempts have resulted in a “sticky†throttle due to suction at certain power applications, etc. Do you experience any issues such as that with your set up? >>> >>> thx. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
Charlie If your eyes are good enough you can jsu see the threads on the inlet P port plugs. They are joined with the clamp to the TB's. I Have another close up I will try and find. Neil
And total size of the email must be less than 200K, if memory serves. Do you have any image resizing software? Charlie (wanting to see details on those screw-in P-ports) On 10/16/2016 10:26 PM, Neil Unger wrote: Chris, Only one Pic per email seems to be the go, Neil On 10/17/2016 2:07 PM, Christian And Tam wrote: No worries Do you have a personal email as I can't seem to post to this forum with pics Cheers Sent from my iPhone On 17 Oct 2016, at 6:34 am, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Christian What manifold pressure do you see at idle? I would love to see a few pictures of your FWF. Bobby Sent from my iPad On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Hi Bobby I went for a single 90mm tb and plenum over the opposite side of the motor and seems to work well, idles at approx 2150 and happily there. Could get lower but prop speed is low enough. Cheers Christian On Monday, 17 October 2016, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Individual TB's were used so they could be located as close to the block as possible for improved idle and throttle response. Idle is still at 18" MP cold and a little lower after warm up. The renesis should have little or no overlap so the single throttle body before the intake manifold appears to work well. Sale is pending for second buyer. Not sure if engine is staying with the plane or being removed. Bobby Sent from my iPad > On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > > Bobby, > Do you know why he did the three TBs and not a plenum with one TB? > Also I thought I saw where the sale of his plane was pending. What is going on there? Was it sold as a flying plane or did you remove the engine? > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:50 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis Update- for Neil Unger > > Mark Steitle experienced sticky slide throttle. He modified it several times and eventually switched to one butterfly TB per rotor. > > Bobby > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >> >> Doug, Had severe problems with a slide throttle, went with butterfly and no problems since. Neil. >> >> >>> On 10/16/2016 7:07 PM, Doug Lomheim wrote: >>> Hi Neil: >>> >>> I have read where some P-Port attempts have resulted in a “sticky†throttle due to suction at certain power applications, etc. Do you experience any issues such as that with your set up? >>> >>> thx. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
Chris, Only one Pic per email seems to be the go, Neil On 10/17/2016 2:07 PM, Christian And Tam wrote: No worries Do you have a personal email as I can't seem to post to this forum with pics Cheers Sent from my iPhone On 17 Oct 2016, at 6:34 am, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Christian What manifold pressure do you see at idle? I would love to see a few pictures of your FWF. Bobby Sent from my iPad On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Hi Bobby I went for a single 90mm tb and plenum over the opposite side of the motor and seems to work well, idles at approx 2150 and happily there. Could get lower but prop speed is low enough. Cheers Christian On Monday, 17 October 2016, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Individual TB's were used so they could be located as close to the block as possible for improved idle and throttle response. Idle is still at 18" MP cold and a little lower after warm up. The renesis should have little or no overlap so the single throttle body before the intake manifold appears to work well. Sale is pending for second buyer. Not sure if engine is staying with the plane or being removed. Bobby Sent from my iPad > On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > > Bobby, > Do you know why he did the three TBs and not a plenum with one TB? > Also I thought I saw where the sale of his plane was pending. What is going on there? Was it sold as a flying plane or did you remove the engine? > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:50 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis Update- for Neil Unger > > Mark Steitle experienced sticky slide throttle. He modified it several times and eventually switched to one butterfly TB per rotor. > > Bobby > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >> >> Doug, Had severe problems with a slide throttle, went with butterfly and no problems since. Neil. >> >> >>> On 10/16/2016 7:07 PM, Doug Lomheim wrote: >>> Hi Neil: >>> >>> I have read where some P-Port attempts have resulted in a “sticky†throttle due to suction at certain power applications, etc. Do you experience any issues such as that with your set up? >>> >>> thx. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
Chris, Only one Pic per email seems to be the go, Neil
No worries Do you have a personal email as I can't seem to post to this forum with pics Cheers Sent from my iPhone On 17 Oct 2016, at 6:34 am, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Christian What manifold pressure do you see at idle? I would love to see a few pictures of your FWF. Bobby Sent from my iPad On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Hi Bobby I went for a single 90mm tb and plenum over the opposite side of the motor and seems to work well, idles at approx 2150 and happily there. Could get lower but prop speed is low enough. Cheers Christian On Monday, 17 October 2016, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Individual TB's were used so they could be located as close to the block as possible for improved idle and throttle response. Idle is still at 18" MP cold and a little lower after warm up. The renesis should have little or no overlap so the single throttle body before the intake manifold appears to work well. Sale is pending for second buyer. Not sure if engine is staying with the plane or being removed. Bobby Sent from my iPad > On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > > Bobby, > Do you know why he did the three TBs and not a plenum with one TB? > Also I thought I saw where the sale of his plane was pending. What is going on there? Was it sold as a flying plane or did you remove the engine? > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:50 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis Update- for Neil Unger > > Mark Steitle experienced sticky slide throttle. He modified it several times and eventually switched to one butterfly TB per rotor. > > Bobby > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >> >> Doug, Had severe problems with a slide throttle, went with butterfly and no problems since. Neil. >> >> >>> On 10/16/2016 7:07 PM, Doug Lomheim wrote: >>> Hi Neil: >>> >>> I have read where some P-Port attempts have resulted in a “sticky†throttle due to suction at certain power applications, etc. Do you experience any issues such as that with your set up? >>> >>> thx. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
Christian What manifold pressure do you see at idle? I would love to see a few pictures of your FWF. Bobby Sent from my iPad On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Hi Bobby I went for a single 90mm tb and plenum over the opposite side of the motor and seems to work well, idles at approx 2150 and happily there. Could get lower but prop speed is low enough. Cheers Christian On Monday, 17 October 2016, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Individual TB's were used so they could be located as close to the block as possible for improved idle and throttle response. Idle is still at 18" MP cold and a little lower after warm up. The renesis should have little or no overlap so the single throttle body before the intake manifold appears to work well. Sale is pending for second buyer. Not sure if engine is staying with the plane or being removed. Bobby Sent from my iPad > On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > > Bobby, > Do you know why he did the three TBs and not a plenum with one TB? > Also I thought I saw where the sale of his plane was pending. What is going on there? Was it sold as a flying plane or did you remove the engine? > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:50 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis Update- for Neil Unger > > Mark Steitle experienced sticky slide throttle. He modified it several times and eventually switched to one butterfly TB per rotor. > > Bobby > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >> >> Doug, Had severe problems with a slide throttle, went with butterfly and no problems since. Neil. >> >> >>> On 10/16/2016 7:07 PM, Doug Lomheim wrote: >>> Hi Neil: >>> >>> I have read where some P-Port attempts have resulted in a “sticky†throttle due to suction at certain power applications, etc. Do you experience any issues such as that with your set up? >>> >>> thx. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
Hi Bobby I went for a single 90mm tb and plenum over the opposite side of the motor and seems to work well, idles at approx 2150 and happily there. Could get lower but prop speed is low enough. Cheers Christian On Monday, 17 October 2016, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Individual TB's were used so they could be located as close to the block as possible for improved idle and throttle response. Idle is still at 18" MP cold and a little lower after warm up. The renesis should have little or no overlap so the single throttle body before the intake manifold appears to work well. Sale is pending for second buyer. Not sure if engine is staying with the plane or being removed. Bobby Sent from my iPad > On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > > Bobby, > Do you know why he did the three TBs and not a plenum with one TB? > Also I thought I saw where the sale of his plane was pending. What is going on there? Was it sold as a flying plane or did you remove the engine? > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:50 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis Update- for Neil Unger > > Mark Steitle experienced sticky slide throttle. He modified it several times and eventually switched to one butterfly TB per rotor. > > Bobby > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >> >> Doug, Had severe problems with a slide throttle, went with butterfly and no problems since. Neil. >> >> >>> On 10/16/2016 7:07 PM, Doug Lomheim wrote: >>> Hi Neil: >>> >>> I have read where some P-Port attempts have resulted in a “sticky†throttle due to suction at certain power applications, etc. Do you experience any issues such as that with your set up? >>> >>> thx. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
Individual TB's were used so they could be located as close to the block as possible for improved idle and throttle response. Idle is still at 18" MP cold and a little lower after warm up. The renesis should have little or no overlap so the single throttle body before the intake manifold appears to work well. Sale is pending for second buyer. Not sure if engine is staying with the plane or being removed. Bobby Sent from my iPad > On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > > Bobby, > Do you know why he did the three TBs and not a plenum with one TB? > Also I thought I saw where the sale of his plane was pending. What is going on there? Was it sold as a flying plane or did you remove the engine? > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:50 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis Update- for Neil Unger > > Mark Steitle experienced sticky slide throttle. He modified it several times and eventually switched to one butterfly TB per rotor. > > Bobby > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >> >> Doug, Had severe problems with a slide throttle, went with butterfly and no problems since. Neil. >> >> >>> On 10/16/2016 7:07 PM, Doug Lomheim wrote: >>> Hi Neil: >>> >>> I have read where some P-Port attempts have resulted in a “sticky†throttle due to suction at certain power applications, etc. Do you experience any issues such as that with your set up? >>> >>> thx. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html