X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Neil Unger" Received: from nsstlmta12p.bpe.bigpond.com ([203.38.21.12] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.12) with ESMTPS id 9040143 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 23:27:09 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=203.38.21.12; envelope-from=unger1948@bigpond.com Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.24.4]) by nsstlfep12p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20161017032649.OEC26657.nsstlfep12p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:26:49 +1100 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50,refid=2.7.2:2016.10.17.23616:17:7.944,ip=,rules=__BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NAME, __TO_NAME_DIFF_FROM_ACC, __REFERENCES, __HAS_FROM, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY, __CTYPE_MULTIPART, __BAT_BOUNDARY, __UNUSABLE_MSGID, __MIME_TEXT_P2, __MIME_TEXT_H2, __ANY_URI, __URI_WITH_PATH, URI_ENDS_IN_HTML, __CP_MEDIA_BODY, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __INT_PROD_MOTORBIKE, __FRAUD_MONEY_CURRENCY_EURO, __HIGHBITS, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __MULTIPLE_URI_TEXT, __URI_IN_BODY, __HTML_AHREF_TAG, __FORWARDED_MSG, __HAS_HTML, __HTML_TAG_DIV, HTML_NO_HTTP, BODY_SIZE_10000_PLUS, BODYTEXTH_SIZE_3000_MORE, BODYTEXTH_SIZE_10000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_H1, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_HTML, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML, __URI_NS, __FRAUD_MONEY_CURRENCY, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, IN_REP_TO, __MIME_TEXT_H, __MIME_TEXT_P, REFERENCES, NO_URI_HTTPS, MSG_THREAD, __TO_REAL_NAMES, LEGITIMATE_SIGNS, LEGITIMATE_NEGATE X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using ID unger1948@bigpond.com Received: from [10.0.0.136] (121.216.40.124) by smtp.telstra.com (9.0.018.03.01) (authenticated as unger1948@bigpond.com) id 57966FEE031A16FD for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:26:49 +1100 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis Update- for Neil Unger To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <233067b2-4be4-7968-64ba-5f3bbce2f787@bigpond.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:26:07 +1100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------9ED21D697E2E6FD75ED5145D" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9ED21D697E2E6FD75ED5145D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris, Only one Pic per email seems to be the go, Neil On 10/17/2016 2:07 PM, Christian And Tam wrote: > No worries > Do you have a personal email as I can't seem to post to this forum > with pics > > Cheers > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 17 Oct 2016, at 6:34 am, Bobby J. Hughes > > wrote: > >> Christian >> What manifold pressure do you see at idle? I would love to see a few >> pictures of your FWF. >> >> >> Bobby >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald >> > wrote: >> >>> Hi Bobby >>> I went for a single 90mm tb and plenum over the opposite side of the >>> motor and seems to work well, idles at approx 2150 and happily there. >>> Could get lower but prop speed is low enough. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Christian >>> >>> On Monday, 17 October 2016, Bobby J. Hughes >>> > >>> wrote: >>> >>> Individual TB's were used so they could be located as close to >>> the block as possible for improved idle and throttle response. >>> Idle is still at 18" MP cold and a little lower after warm up. >>> The renesis should have little or no overlap so the single >>> throttle body before the intake manifold appears to work well. >>> >>> Sale is pending for second buyer. Not sure if engine is staying >>> with the plane or being removed. >>> >>> Bobby >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> > On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bill Bradburry >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > Bobby, >>> > Do you know why he did the three TBs and not a plenum with one TB? >>> > Also I thought I saw where the sale of his plane was pending. >>> What is going on there? Was it sold as a flying plane or did >>> you remove the engine? >>> > Bill >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Rotary motors in aircraft >>> [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net ] >>> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:50 AM >>> > To: Rotary motors in aircraft >>> > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis >>> Update- for Neil Unger >>> > >>> > Mark Steitle experienced sticky slide throttle. He modified it >>> several times and eventually switched to one butterfly TB per rotor. >>> > >>> > Bobby >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPad >>> > >>> >> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Neil Unger >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Doug, Had severe problems with a slide throttle, went with >>> butterfly and no problems since. Neil. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> On 10/16/2016 7:07 PM, Doug Lomheim wrote: >>> >>> Hi Neil: >>> >>> >>> >>> I have read where some P-Port attempts have resulted in a >>> “sticky†throttle due to suction at certain power >>> applications, etc. Do you experience any issues such as that >>> with your set up? >>> >>> >>> >>> thx. >>> >>> >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> >>> Archive and UnSub: >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> >> Archive and UnSub: >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> > Archive and UnSub: >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> > Archive and UnSub: >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >>> --------------9ED21D697E2E6FD75ED5145D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Chris,  Only one Pic per email seems to be the go,  Neil


On 10/17/2016 2:07 PM, Christian And Tam wrote:
No worries
Do you have a personal email as I can't seem to post to this forum with pics

Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

On 17 Oct 2016, at 6:34 am, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Christian
What manifold pressure do you see at idle?  I would love to see a few pictures of your FWF. 


Bobby





Sent from my iPad

On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Hi Bobby
I went for a single 90mm tb and plenum over the opposite side of the motor and seems to work well, idles at approx 2150 and happily there.
Could get lower but prop speed is low enough.

Cheers
Christian

On Monday, 17 October 2016, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Individual TB's were used so they could be located as close to the block as possible for improved idle and throttle response. Idle is still at 18"  MP cold and a little lower after warm up. The renesis should have little or no overlap so the single throttle body before the intake manifold appears to work well.

Sale is pending for second buyer. Not sure if engine is staying with the plane or being removed.

Bobby

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
>
> Bobby,
> Do you know why he did the three TBs and not a plenum with one TB?
> Also I thought I saw where the sale of his plane was pending.  What is going on there?  Was it sold as a flying plane or did you remove the engine?
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:50 AM
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis Update- for Neil Unger
>
> Mark Steitle experienced sticky slide throttle. He modified it several times and eventually switched to one butterfly TB per rotor.
>
> Bobby
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
>>
>> Doug,  Had severe problems with a slide throttle,  went with butterfly and no problems since.  Neil.
>>
>>
>>> On 10/16/2016 7:07 PM, Doug Lomheim wrote:
>>> Hi Neil:
>>>
>>> I have read where some P-Port attempts have resulted in a “sticky† throttle due to suction at certain power applications, etc.  Do you experience any issues such as that with your set up?
>>>
>>> thx.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> --
>>> Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/
>>> Archive and UnSub:   http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
>>
>>
>> --
>> Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/
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>
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