X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Christian And Tam" Received: from mail-pf0-f180.google.com ([209.85.192.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.12) with ESMTPS id 9040149 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 23:07:36 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.192.180; envelope-from=christamarmc@gmail.com Received: by mail-pf0-f180.google.com with SMTP id e6so72964375pfk.3 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 20:07:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:message-id:date :references:in-reply-to:to; bh=aekRnXt1IIdw/2QO21PGCqc85kglKsZB9QiXQheFSCM=; b=nu8M5vuPiitNlZgI7triPK/PvYL4U4veqXGrlH+yejdMrsWQKPgT0Q8UzGMbtPZsoF M1nOuqFik3QSwAYg+PGsBOKfNnbQyMl9W17kRGv7j5D7W1TPuo5JRKT73McuXt3qdJD8 ikFUEvEfRKwbttu257q7sdFguHDXOVcgGf9HgHChqNNEJk1g6O8xaiobeh5MpkXkDeIN QDOVrU7CRO/v8CwdHeWjaI9l6LzAk4jUvPnzbWOsLvAgU3un0lzyrosrpUbo3aSWXSlD 7/H/lySuXLaleNW0pVf4OrJ/UN3Fg3Z/W61TjaiswoNpv1LHsPwGzZXSSrzvFTGIYWvk ZwNw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to:to; bh=aekRnXt1IIdw/2QO21PGCqc85kglKsZB9QiXQheFSCM=; b=AxDTA+6sGh2fTOuvTUhuLIH3HaiznndNTwUJIaEZKGK7AAeF6QYNfUHXmrDnnyCFGW oax7U3vuNbhK8Wk1aOdH61Glg3Fchy5r6wef2NegXUc+DqhH8uxfeiiBfGmbJrCKNF4Q y/Ik4eoUC4ocMfHHbEGfe64Aiy/fZBMMF77W/GS/e5/iCOCiv61WyGlDUXPL0QFUCjxU WtUPrBMkYzvCrIGahiKLhOhk3iOK6jU9d9QzuRD6E2w7ZJKM0vEbKWRK7mPkejIC/xKk VPRWaPgw9ghPKO6mIiVaczbp+fZZ+xGVULoQU8ptBxnbBMZFBbjExYrVM4GcqrNepJNZ 34oA== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9Rk0NAqXYXyIEiGvSUlDCkDMfyCgfAEgnob7up+koBnP7xD3HTYVY4ON3GkD5vCIFw== X-Received: by 10.99.135.65 with SMTP id i62mr28901318pge.112.1476673637478; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 20:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [10.154.175.130] ([1.132.33.225]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s64sm43283115pfk.81.2016.10.16.20.07.15 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 16 Oct 2016 20:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6CBCE8B4-EE43-4947-8EC0-879A6B90E0D2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis Update- for Neil Unger Message-Id: <42606F64-68FA-41F0-80D8-9A03870CCC6D@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 13:07:12 +1000 References: In-Reply-To: To: Rotary motors in aircraft X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12B411) --Apple-Mail-6CBCE8B4-EE43-4947-8EC0-879A6B90E0D2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No worries Do you have a personal email as I can't seem to post to this forum with pics= Cheers Sent from my iPhone > On 17 Oct 2016, at 6:34 am, Bobby J. Hughes w= rote: >=20 > Christian > What manifold pressure do you see at idle? I would love to see a few pict= ures of your FWF.=20 >=20 >=20 > Bobby >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 >> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Bobby >> I went for a single 90mm tb and plenum over the opposite side of the moto= r and seems to work well, idles at approx 2150 and happily there. >> Could get lower but prop speed is low enough. >>=20 >> Cheers >> Christian >>=20 >>> On Monday, 17 October 2016, Bobby J. Hughes wrote: >>> Individual TB's were used so they could be located as close to the block= as possible for improved idle and throttle response. Idle is still at 18" M= P cold and a little lower after warm up. The renesis should have little or n= o overlap so the single throttle body before the intake manifold appears to w= ork well. >>>=20 >>> Sale is pending for second buyer. Not sure if engine is staying with the= plane or being removed. >>>=20 >>> Bobby >>>=20 >>> Sent from my iPad >>>=20 >>> > On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bill Bradburry wrote: >>> > >>> > Bobby, >>> > Do you know why he did the three TBs and not a plenum with one TB? >>> > Also I thought I saw where the sale of his plane was pending. What is= going on there? Was it sold as a flying plane or did you remove the engine= ? >>> > Bill >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] >>> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:50 AM >>> > To: Rotary motors in aircraft >>> > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis Update- for Ne= il Unger >>> > >>> > Mark Steitle experienced sticky slide throttle. He modified it several= times and eventually switched to one butterfly TB per rotor. >>> > >>> > Bobby >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPad >>> > >>> >> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Neil Unger = wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Doug, Had severe problems with a slide throttle, went with butterfl= y and no problems since. Neil. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> On 10/16/2016 7:07 PM, Doug Lomheim wrote: >>> >>> Hi Neil: >>> >>> >>> >>> I have read where some P-Port attempts have resulted in a =C3=A2=E2=82= =AC=C5=93sticky=C3=A2=E2=82=AC throttle due to suction at certain power app= lications, etc. Do you experience any issues such as that with your set up?= >>> >>> >>> >>> thx. >>> >>> >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotar= y/List.html >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary= /List.html >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/= List.html >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/= List.html >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Li= st.html --Apple-Mail-6CBCE8B4-EE43-4947-8EC0-879A6B90E0D2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No worries
Do you have a per= sonal email as I can't seem to post to this forum with pics

Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

On 17 Oct 2016, at 6= :34 am, Bobby J. Hughes <f= lyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Christian
What manifold pres= sure do you see at idle?  I would love to see a few pictures of your FW= F. 


Bobby





Sent f= rom my iPad

On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Christian And Tamara M= cdonald <flyrotary@lancair= online.net> wrote:

Hi Bob= by
I went for a single 90mm tb and plenum over the opposite side of the m= otor and seems to work well, idles at approx 2150 and happily there.
Could get lower but prop speed is low enough.

Ch= eers
Christian

On Monday, 17 October 2016, Bobby J. Hughes &= lt;flyrotary@lancaironline.ne= t> wrote:
Individual TB's were used s= o they could be located as close to the block as possible for improved idle a= nd throttle response. Idle is still at 18"  MP cold and a little lower a= fter warm up. The renesis should have little or no overlap so the single thr= ottle body before the intake manifold appears to work well.

Sale is pending for second buyer. Not sure if engine is staying with the pla= ne or being removed.

Bobby

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@la= ncaironline.net> wrote:
>
> Bobby,
> Do you know why he did the three TBs and not a plenum with one TB?
> Also I thought I saw where the sale of his plane was pending.  Wha= t is going on there?  Was it sold as a flying plane or did you remove t= he engine?
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironli= ne.net]
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:50 AM
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis Update- for Nei= l Unger
>
> Mark Steitle experienced sticky slide throttle. He modified it several t= imes and eventually switched to one butterfly TB per rotor.
>
> Bobby
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lan= caironline.net> wrote:
>>
>> Doug,  Had severe problems with a slide throttle,  went w= ith butterfly and no problems since.  Neil.
>>
>>
>>> On 10/16/2016 7:07 PM, Doug Lomheim wrote:
>>> Hi Neil:
>>>
>>> I have read where some P-Port attempts have resulted in a =C3=A2= =E2=82=AC=C5=93sticky=C3=A2=E2=82=AC  throttle due to suction at certai= n power applications, etc.  Do you experience any issues such as that w= ith your set up?
>>>
>>> thx.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
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>>
>>
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