X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "James R. Osborn" Received: from mail-pa0-f46.google.com ([209.85.220.46] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.6) with ESMTPS id 8113334 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:23:06 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.220.46; envelope-from=rxcited@gmail.com Received: by pacfv9 with SMTP id fv9so52294616pac.3 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 13:22:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date :to:mime-version; bh=o8/d2x+nozvbofpXVxIM8lx/YZUL5WkTOsnGlvMaPDc=; b=QV7GutQq+qsQnzOK1Wsxw6t2Ny7EF5e2Y0cnZudJoB0pksJ8RUSaCQ0PgmjdHB2unB nXxZn1XuzMNovydtlk6N5UMFqSWf9YxE2q91NSQSw4bbTY/8UNxhxznXoRggixrDVGYc QJE7vDKF70N41MyaJ/TxyiXRNbY1n3n+i4tuzUgMoPFvrxdsDCHZruDu9u6urqfuzDnu cGhuedtzGuV59V7TvFJhu5F0nCdCKpo6xsvTdGhefISs1IiAFmaYvJiPu4p0RAkfdZqY nvjq8vNDQev5tqqj3AsS16tEHZ8UYeBSLyqrUJdIyM7pp8PYA/SEl3iK6vZnWyUwwJBd 784A== X-Received: by 10.67.6.161 with SMTP id cv1mr3915561pad.131.1446150170082; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 13:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from ?IPv6:2620:83:8001:24::1:1c35? ([2620:83:8001:24::1:1c35]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id qv5sm3872728pbc.71.2015.10.29.13.22.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Oct 2015 13:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: 20B with RD-1C Prop Options Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 13:22:47 -0700 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Hi guys, So I am going to be building an RV-10. I sourced Bobby=E2=80=99s spare = 20B / RD-1C combo and my plan is to work on the motor first, kind of = bass-ackward but that is what I am doing. My plan is to build a = motor/mount test stand and work everything out on the ground before I = ever put it in an airframe. I plan to set it up NA using the existing = side port configuration. I don=E2=80=99t know if it is ported - I am = going to attempt to determine this by inspection without cracking it = open and doing a dynamic compression test to evaluate the health of the = motor. If it is necessary to entirely rebuild the motor, I would = probably go PP. So I am thinking the target HP as it is would be in the = 275 HP range and probably 325 HP if it ends up being a PP. How do these = numbers sound to you all? I will be looking for a way to dyno it, hopefully borrow one to get some = data. But I was also thinking about just getting an appropriate fixed = pitch prop and working through the bugs based on static run ups. I like = the idea of a three blade prop. I like the idea of optimizing for = cruise at 75%, say 5800 rpm which would put full throttle at 7733 rpm on = the 20B. At 5800 rpm, the prop would be spinning 2035 rpm and at full = throttle 2713 rpm (using the 2.85 ratio RD-1C PSRU). Do all these = numbers sound about right? If so, then how do I choose a prop that will result in 2713 rpm static = run up at full throttle, but be tuned for efficiency at 2035 rpm cruise? = I am assuming at these reasonable RPMs that it will be a larger swing = and the three blade makes sense - what do you think? Is there a = convenient way to find props out there that will work at the target full = throttle HP of 275 or 325? Also if you guys have any good resources to = learn about how to figure these things out (books, web pages, online = calculators, etc.) that would be great! Another option might be to go with something like the IVOPROP Magnum, = either ground adjustable or electric inflight adjustable. What do you = guys think of these? Would the adjustability really help me adapt to = however my power plant turns out? Would the extra complexity be worth = it? For the ground adjustable one, I am thinking the process would be: = 1. select the =E2=80=9Ccorrect=E2=80=9D swing (how?) and go for three = blades, 2) use ground adjustability and work up to THE pitch while I = tune the motor until I achieve full throttle static run up around 7700 = RPM. Will this result in a reasonably efficient setting for 75% cruise? = Am I thinking about this clearly? All opinions are welcome. There=E2=80=99s a lot for you to chew on! =E2=80=94 James