X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Andrew Martin" Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com ([209.85.212.170] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.4) with ESMTPS id 7801589 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 02:52:45 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.212.170; envelope-from=andrew@martinag.com.au Received: by wiga1 with SMTP id a1so46652632wig.0 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 23:52:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nBU9L1uOZDlc9kCmEfpb3sOnKaGjQlo0x0u5KLKlLLk=; b=RuOwWzEuDavjtdt4cJdtZlnn6qUPnACmB77FH8hUU9jGY9ZyVzDJ8wBXSv9UFVXdXD nVTl54kTCdbIaeV6ve44WGvOQo1k9Co0jQAw8kE3uu8ybvtHE3H7RyzoEVIZ2aAbPOzB /Xh0ahbRDFEZ8Vzmqe3qCn282ASSgYFeiYZxX6bm5ig7LGUaS/a0fO5hj9wCnpOa8VbC 0iVrJQ/ofJFBXEYhTrHj4NT8KqzEBkGpoEwYLUQ7FSSUTJVugo6G6Di47qsjHZYIW1z4 JWySXkF8HnhKRE9HRstkAWClLWI1iU0PEfffyFfhXfih/35WKE7I3+B7HUscT3q7p9xt g/uQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmzsKxXs+DD3X2xlIlS1m6AQqHLulOLlVs9xzj6Ti4xsmVBr7tI7g0wF4f4dkrKXQ0mzWca MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.91.107 with SMTP id cd11mr10544727wib.51.1435474329505; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 23:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.203.137 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 23:52:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [202.40.0.40] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 14:52:09 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: West Aussie Rotary To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043bdf747ea67a05198e6916 --f46d043bdf747ea67a05198e6916 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Take 2 without photo Hi All > > Over the last 6 weeks I've got my plane to the airport, assembled & > running. Now wouldn't it be great if it was just that easy. > > Firstly I found when trying to start the engine, it didn't want to start, > everything made right noises but 0 fuel, I mean absolutely no fuel would > flow through any of the injectors, which annoyed me as they only had about > 10 min running time from a couple of years ago. Got them cleaned & all good. > > Almost every day since I've been trying to tune this thing. Seems easy > enough after re reading Tracy's manuals a couple more times, in practice > has been a bit of a pain, at each start it seems previous fuel map settings > were wrong, today I think I may have found the issue. > Fuel could be pooling in the intake runners at low rpm then creating a > rich situation as it is consumed. My intake runners are fairly short at > about 12", from the flange they are angled down about 1 dia then turn > up into the bottom of the plenum extending to the top. I thought this would > be ok as at flight rpm should be enough airflow to keep the fuel moving, > just to get to flight rpm! > > Have managed some high rpm runs after tying the plane down, get to about > 7200rpm before oil temp and blistering paint on the cowl stops play pretty > quick. Seems to happen too quick to write down all temps & pressures but > coolant seems to max out at about 180 oil just keeps climbing at anything > more than about 4000 rpm but can get it below 200 after idling. > > So me thinks, need to set higher minimum pitch on prop, maybe a oil to > coolant heat exchanger, maybe something similar to what Tracy done early > on, in the oil pan on his rv4. Some heat shielding on cowl, Then wait until > all pooled fuel is gone each time before trying to tune. > > Engine is a 4 port Renesis, heat exchangers are against the firewall with > cool air ducted from just under the spinner, under the motor then up the > firewall. hot air exits on top front of cowl. Other than the oil temp seems > to work quite well, heat exchangers share air but coolant one might be > getting more than it should. > > Fun times. > > Andrew > -- Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag --f46d043bdf747ea67a05198e6916 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Take 2 without photo

Hi All<= div>
Over the last 6 weeks I've got my plane to the airpo= rt, assembled & running.=C2=A0 Now wouldn't it be great if it was j= ust that easy.

Firstly I found when trying to star= t the engine, it didn't want to start, everything made right noises but= 0 fuel, I mean absolutely no fuel would flow through any of the injectors,= which annoyed me as they only had=C2=A0about 10 min running time from a co= uple of years ago. Got them cleaned & all good.

Almost every day since I've been trying to tune this thing. Seems eas= y enough after re reading Tracy's manuals a couple more times, in pract= ice has been a bit of a pain, at each start it seems previous fuel=C2=A0map= settings were wrong, today I think I may have found the issue.
F= uel could be pooling in the intake runners=C2=A0at low rpm then creating a = rich situation as it is consumed. My intake runners are fairly short at abo= ut 12", from the flange they are angled down about 1 dia then turn up= =C2=A0into the bottom of the plenum extending to the top. I thought this wo= uld be ok as at flight rpm should be enough airflow to keep the fuel moving= , just to get to flight rpm!

Have managed some hig= h=C2=A0rpm runs=C2=A0after tying the plane down,=C2=A0get to=C2=A0about 720= 0rpm before oil temp and blistering paint on the cowl stops play pretty qui= ck. Seems to happen too quick to write down all temps & pressures but c= oolant seems to max out at about 180 oil just keeps climbing at anything mo= re than about 4000 rpm but can get it below 200 after idling.
So me thinks, need to set higher minimum pitch on prop, maybe a= oil to coolant heat exchanger, maybe something similar to what Tracy done = early on,=C2=A0in the oil pan=C2=A0on his rv4. Some heat shielding on cowl,= =C2=A0Then wait until all pooled fuel is gone each time=C2=A0before trying = to tune.

Engine is a 4 port Renesis, heat exchange= rs are against the firewall with cool air ducted from just under the spinne= r, under the motor then up the firewall.=C2=A0hot air exits on top front of= cowl. Other than the oil temp seems to work quite well, heat exchangers=C2= =A0share air but coolant one might be getting more than it should.

Fun times.

Andrew


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Regards
Andrew Martin
Martin Ag
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