X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Kelly Troyer" Received: from mail-oi0-f52.google.com ([209.85.218.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.3) with ESMTPS id 7790385 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:33:21 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.218.52; envelope-from=keltro@gmail.com Received: by oiyy130 with SMTP id y130so46562361oiy.0 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:32:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=j+H+GEJQp/OMxsdQgQnCV6PjQrukspYm85+XWiY38r8=; b=oor4spngtYpq0PbkcDXHpURayR/U1XbNA1M7Y1FA5JS3nNSLpG/GxsmqZxBIqPo2jr dAjqLx9qPICXTK03/3CgJDoHhoPmDmljrWZeK7aapNo50Uw2rvJFIzRKDZEzKpxpWMy4 aW93cxxL8P5Y6iWeSr/D0teXdIMqd+SBy0zkoG2hm+/6cHX1L+aU8A66XKiW2CyicHJb VhmDUxgF8PERnvvT1qgIrOCjN3QpopYpb7YJPbrGqClH024S+k9y9BX2CvxIxUUP8KpW 9Gic9B36Vt9HGYj6WAElZaF7sKLl7ruoJFVJNBgrI78XGvjP0uMaowvU5kebUS1yiQFu 3VGw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.230.234 with SMTP id tb10mr38699372obc.23.1435217566335; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.205.216 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:32:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 02:32:46 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Fwd: [FlyRotary] PERIPHERAL PORT INFO (Mark Steitle) To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3371c378c33051952a1c3 --001a11c3371c378c33051952a1c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Mark, Thanks and I will take all the photos of your "TB" installation you will send.......I cannot tell from this photo how your "TB's" connect to the stainless intake tubes.......I presume hose and clamps.........My E mail below........ keltro@gmail .com Thanks Again, On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:37 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mark Steitle > Date: Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:08 PM > Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] PERIPHERAL PORT INFO (Mark Steitle) > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > > > Kelly, > > Yes, I used 2" o.d. SS pipe for the PP intakes. I think the TB's were > originally 46mm, but had been opened up to 48's (with 48mm butterfly's of > course). I sealed the water passages with Grey RTV and have not had any > problems with it. I sealed the old side intake ports with Devcon epoxy and > it is holding up just fine. Attached are some pictures of my new PP > intake. Note that there are reducers on the intake side of the TB's. > That's because the TB's have a bell-mouth on the inlets. My 2" aluminum > intake runners go down inside the bell-mouth and essentially make a > straight through intake runner. Some day I hope to take them off, machine > a step in the bell-mouth and epoxy the 2" runners in place. I tried it > with a step up to the larger intake runner and it didn't perform well at > all (duh!). I'm sending some pictures so that maybe some of this will > start to make sense. > > Mark > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Kelly Troyer > wrote: > >> Mark, >> >> Glad you mentioned your use of the individual throttle body's as I had >> forgotten that you replaced the slide throttle.......I presume that you >> used the two inch OD stainless intake tubes as called out by Paul Lamar >> ?...........The 48 mm TB's are an almost perfect match for the intake >> tube ID.........Did you use any "Devco" sealant in the water passage around >> the intake tubes in addition to the red gasket sealant under the plates >> ?.........Also did you have any problem with TIG weld "Spatter" getting on >> the chrome surface of the rotor hsg and causing any damage ?......... >> >> I have one of "MISTRAL's" mount plates which bolts up to a Lyc >> "dynafocal" mount ring and solves the thorny Rotary Engine mount problem >> and will allow me to switch engines (hopefully) at some point........I am >> building a somewhat hybrid version of the 13BREW with RB alum rear and >> center hsgs (expensive 28 lb weight savings) ..........I am retaining the >> iron front hsg (rear in my a/c) as the "MISTRAL" plate bolts up to it >> with several 6 mm bolts and I was not fond of the idea of my entire engine >> hanging on these bolts into aluminum threads.........I also have a TO4E >> Turbo on the bench just in case I get this done in this lifetime........<:) >> >> P.S. Do you happen to have a photo of your throttle body installation ? >> >> Thanks Again, >> >> Kelly Troyer >> >> >> > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > --001a11c3371c378c33051952a1c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks and I will take all the phot= os of your "TB" installation you will send.......I cannot
tell from this photo how your "TB's" connect to the stainl= ess intake tubes.......I presume
hose and clamps.........My E mai= l below........

keltro@gmail .com

Thanks Again,

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:37 AM, Mark Steitle = <flyrot= ary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

---------- Forwarded mes= sage ----------
From: Mark Steitle <ms= dstx@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:08 PM
Subj= ect: Re: [FlyRotary] PERIPHERAL PORT INFO (Mark Steitle)
To: Rotary moto= rs in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>


Kelly,

Yes, I used 2" o.d. SS pipe for the PP in= takes.=C2=A0 I think the TB's were originally 46mm, but had been opened= up to 48's (with 48mm butterfly's of course).=C2=A0 I sealed the w= ater passages with Grey RTV and have not had any problems with it.=C2=A0 I = sealed the old side intake ports with Devcon epoxy and it is holding up jus= t fine.=C2=A0 Attached are some pictures of my new PP intake.=C2=A0 Note th= at there are reducers on the intake side of the TB's.=C2=A0 That's = because the TB's have a bell-mouth on the inlets.=C2=A0 My 2" alum= inum intake runners go down inside the bell-mouth and essentially make a st= raight through intake runner.=C2=A0 Some day I hope to take them off, machi= ne a step in the bell-mouth and epoxy the 2" runners in place.=C2=A0 I= tried it with a step up to the larger intake runner and it didn't perf= orm well at all (duh!).=C2=A0 I'm sending some pictures so that maybe s= ome of this will start to make sense.=C2=A0

Mark=C2=A0

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Kelly Tro= yer <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Mark,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Glad you mentioned you= r use of the individual throttle body's as I had forgotten that you rep= laced the slide throttle.......I presume=C2=A0that you used the two inch OD stainless intake tubes as cal= led out by Paul Lamar ?...........The 48 mm TB's are an almost perfect= =C2=A0match for the int= ake tube ID.........Did you use any "Devco" sealant in the water = passage around the intake tubes in addition to the=C2=A0red gasket sealant under the plates ?....= .....Also did you have any problem with TIG weld "Spatter" gettin= g on the chrome surface=C2=A0of the rotor hsg and causing any damage ?.........
=

=C2=A0 =C2=A0I= have one of "MISTRAL's" mount plates which bolts up to a Lyc= "dynafocal" mount ring and solves the thorny Rotary Engine=C2=A0= mount problem and will allow m= e to switch engines (hopefully) at some point........I am building a somewh= at hybrid version of the=C2=A013BREW with RB alum rear and center hsgs (expensive 28 lb weight sav= ings) ..........I am retaining the iron front hsg (rear in my=C2=A0<= span style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">a/c)=C2=A0as the "MISTRAL" plate bolts up to= it with several 6 mm bolts and I was not fond of the idea of =C2=A0my enti= re engine hanging on=C2=A0these bolts into aluminum threads.........I also have=C2=A0a TO4E Turbo on the bench just in ca= se I get this done in this lifetime........<:)

P.S. Do you happen to have = a photo of your throttle body installation ?

Thanks Again,

Kelly Troyer =C2=A0

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