Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.102] (HELO ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 3061207 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 03 Mar 2004 12:57:29 -0500 Received: from edward (clt78-020.carolina.rr.com [24.93.78.20]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id i23HvOs2007742 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2004 12:57:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003201c40148$fdb1af50$2402a8c0@edward> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ideal Cooling System Plumbing (was Re: [FlyRotary] Re: overflow connections Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 12:57:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01C4011F.14A750E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C4011F.14A750E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: <13brv3@bellsouth.net> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:48 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ideal Cooling System Plumbing (was Re: = [FlyRotary] Re: overflow connections > > Now I think I have a reasonable explanation: He had air trapped = somewhere > > in the top of his rad/cores or hoses in that vicinity, which = impaired his > > cooling; then by reversing "in and out", he started moving the air = or air > > bubbles out with the flow. Makes sense to me and solidifies my = position > > that my hot coolant from the engine will enter the BOTTOM of both = of my > > cores via a Y or splitter in between them, and exit at the TOP of = each, into > > another Y. >=20 > I have my inlets and outlets for both cores on the bottom, so the top = would seem to have great potential for trapped air. I was thinking of = addind a bleed port on the top of the cores, but Ed talked me out of it = (and will be in trouble if this doesn't work ). His is set up the = same way, and he has no problems with air being permanently trapped. = Since I'll have a coolant pressure gauge with the new setup (thanks to = the EM-2), I should be able to tell if there is air in the system by how = fast the pressure comes up with temp. =20 >=20 > I have to admit that I'm still mighty tempted to add a couple small = bleed ports while it's still easy to do. =20 >=20 > Cheers, > Rusty (any excuse to weld something) >=20 Oh, yea of little faith. You will need to burp the engine a = couple/three times to get all the air out of the cores. But, by all = means if your welding skills with very thin wall and brazed (lower = melting temp than aluminum) aluminum cores are up to the task then = bleeds will eliminate the need to do the burping runs. Good luck {:>). Ed. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C4011F.14A750E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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From: <13brv3@bellsouth.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:48=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ideal Cooling = System=20 Plumbing (was Re: [FlyRotary] Re: overflow = connections

> > Now I think I have a = reasonable=20 explanation:  He had air trapped somewhere
> > in the top = of his=20 rad/cores or hoses in that vicinity, which impaired his
> > = cooling;=20 then by reversing "in and out", he started moving the air or air
> = >=20 bubbles out with the flow.  Makes sense to me and solidifies my=20 position
> > that my hot coolant from the engine will enter the = BOTTOM=20 of  both of my
> > cores via a Y or splitter in between = them, and=20 exit at the TOP of each, into
> > another Y.
>
> I = have my=20 inlets and outlets for both cores on the bottom, so the top would seem = to have=20 great potential for trapped air.  I was thinking of addind a bleed = port on=20 the top of the cores, but Ed talked me out of it (and will be in trouble = if this=20 doesn't work <g>).  His is set up the same way, and he has no = problems with air being permanently trapped.  Since I'll have a = coolant=20 pressure gauge with the new setup (thanks to the EM-2), I should be able = to tell=20 if there is air in the system by how fast the pressure comes up with = temp. =20
>
> I have to admit that I'm still mighty tempted to add a = couple=20 small bleed ports while it's still easy to do. 
>
>=20 Cheers,
> Rusty (any excuse to weld something)
> =
 

Oh, yea of little = faith. =20 You will need to burp the engine a couple/three times to get all the air = out of=20 the cores.  But, by all means if your welding skills with very thin = wall=20 and brazed (lower melting temp than aluminum) aluminum cores are up to = the task=20 then bleeds will eliminate the need to do the burping runs.  Good = luck=20 {:>).
 
Ed.
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