Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #61778
From: Ed Anderson <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Questions for Ed Anderson- Plugs UP Oil System
Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 16:46:25 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Good question, Bobby
 
To answer it, no I did not have a problem – however, that is likely because I had read of the problem that several folks have had if there were an air leak in the oil pickup line – air apparently suck much easier than oil {Open-mouthed smile).
 
So I used the stock flat seal between the plate and the oil pickup fitting on the inside.  Then through a hole in the plate, I inserted the pickup tube (aluminum – 1/2” dia as best I recall )– whatever the largest diameter that would fit inside the oil pickup hole.  Then on the outside of the plate I had a fitting (3/16” thick – I think) that had a 1/2” dia hole in it – through which the tube ran.  The plate and this fitting used the two stock oil pickup bolt holes (so you need two holes in the plate for them) to hold this fitting.  On the underside of the fitting facing the plate I used a large drill to make the area around the tube hole concave.  Into this I selected a fuel resistance “O” ring that was large enough to be compressed against the tube and the plate when I tighten the bolts. 
 
That is the method I used, but there may well be better methods – it worked for me for over 400 hours
 
Ed
 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 3:39 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Questions for Ed Anderson- Plugs UP Oil System
 

Thanks Ed. The standoff is not visible in the picture but I had guessed  you did something similar. Any issues with sealing the oil pickup tube to the block off plate and front iron?

 

Bobby

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 3:23 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Questions for Ed Anderson- Plugs UP Oil System

 

Hi Bobby,

 

I believe the things you have the arrows pointing to are triangular shaped braces that support the oil sump to the oil pan.  The are welded to top of sump and plate.

 

To access the bolts in the area of the sump, I stood the 4”x 4” tubing I used for the sump off from the pan about 1 – 1 1/2”.  I did this by using a 1” x 1 1/2” rectangular tube (its end’s plugged) welded to both the plate and the sump.  Then 3/4” dia  (I think around 6 holes) holes were drilled through plate, standoff and sump for the oil to return to the sump – probably best to drill holes before welding components together, but they can be drilled from the inside plate side – just make sure you get all shavings out.  This stand-off also gave you access to around 3-4 pan bolts.  Depending on your set up these may or may not be a pain  to unscrew, but it can be done.

 

The round tall blue tube served as oil fill tube and dip stick tube. It was threaded internally at the top and a threaded plug with a hole drilled in it for the dip stick was used.

 

The aluminum tubes were coolant (front) and air/oil separator (which I took off after two years of flying with it and it collecting no oil, because the rotary simply was not spitting any out.

 

Ed

 

Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 2:57 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Questions for Ed Anderson- Plugs UP Oil System

 

Ed,

I have a couple of question about your plug up installation. How do you access the oil pan bolts located behind the oil reservoir and allow for oil drain back? Also I see what looks like an additional tube (black arrow) in the attached photo. Can’t figure out what it’s for. Is it a  support bracket?

 

Thanks,

 

Bobby Hughes

 


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