Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #61774
From: <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Fwd: [Questions / Comments] Heat shield fabric
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 17:53:46 +0000 (UTC)
To: Fly rotary blog, e-mail <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Ceramic coatings inside & outside of exhaust pipes works very well to keep the heat moving out the pipe.  David R. Cook  RV6A  Rotary


From: "Joseph Berki" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 1:22:31 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Fwd: [Questions / Comments] Heat shield fabric

Paul,

I was looking into the possibility of building a fabric heat shield in place of the metal one that is currently 90% complete due to the lack of space.

Below is a string of emails that provided the information.

I do not want to wrap pipes as the Velocity went down do to pipe failure. 

Joe Berki

Begin forwarded message:

From: Dan Stark <dans@designengineering.com>
Subject: RE: [Questions / Comments] Heat shield fabric
Date: May 11, 2015 at 10:21:58 AM EDT
To: Joseph Berki <jskmberki@windstream.net>

Joseph,
Would this work for you-  http://www.designengineering.com/category/catalog/design-engineering-inc/exhaust-wraps-accessories/titanium-pipe-shield    They may not be wide enough for you but if it is something that could work, it is already constructed so you do not have to do the labor.

It should hold up at that distance but with that type of temperature you would want to make sure that you don't disturb the shield after it sees heat cycles.  That level of temperature could crystalize the fabric.  It will still insulate but if the fibers are disturbed, they may break down.

We do have 8'' wide exhaust wrap that you could use to easily sew a shield together, but the same thing would happen.  Over time the heat would crystalize it.  Since you have a good air gap, you could mount our Floor and Tunnel to the inside of your shield.  You would need to make sure the mounting points are on something cooler, like the block, but the material should hold up.  If you mount it to the exhaust, the heat would transfer to the shield and it may harm the adhesive.

https://www.designengineering.com//category/catalog/design-engineering-inc/heat-sound-barrier/floor-tunnel-shield-ii-heat-sound-insulat

If you have any other ideas I can help out.  Just let me know what you think-


Dan Stark
Customer Service Representative
DanS@designengineering.com
http://www.designengineering.com/



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-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Berki [mailto:jskmberki@windstream.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 3:44 AM
To: Dan Stark
Subject: Re: [Questions / Comments] Heat shield fabric

Dan,

I am trying to build a heat shield for SS headers on a Mazda P port rotary.

At full power the header will glow.  1800 degrees is the exhaust temp.

I need something that can take what ever the temp might be when positioned 1 inch or so away from the header.

I have a metal shield but space is at a minimum and I thought something flexible might work.

Another thought instead of sewing would be to pop rivet it at specific places using captured washers for support.

Thanks for any help

Joe Berki
On May 8, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Dan Stark <dans@designengineering.com> wrote:

Hello,
What material are you mainly interested in?   



Dan Stark
Customer Service Representative
DanS@designengineering.com
http://www.designengineering.com/



Design Engineering, Inc.
604 Moore Road
Avon Lake, Ohio 44012

800.264.9472
440.930.7967 Fax
www.DesignEngineering.com



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-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Berki [mailto:jskmberki@windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 3:22 PM
To: Dan Stark
Subject: Re: [Questions / Comments] Heat shield fabric

Dan,

Do you have any recommendations for the type of sewing machine and thread?

I would think that the thread would have to be able to withstand heat and the machine robust enough to handle the fabric.

Appreciate any help.

Joe Berki
On May 8, 2015, at 10:26 AM, Dan Stark <dans@designengineering.com> wrote:

Hello,
All of our materials can be sewn together with the right machine.  

Please let me know if you have any other questions with anything and I can help further.   Thank you for your interest in DEI products.  

Dan Stark
Customer Service Representative
DanS@designengineering.com
http://www.designengineering.com/



Design Engineering, Inc.
604 Moore Road
Avon Lake, Ohio 44012

800.264.9472
440.930.7967 Fax
www.DesignEngineering.com



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-----Original Message-----
From: website@designengineering.com [mailto:website@designengineering.com] On Behalf Of Jskmberki@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 7:55 PM
To: Dan Stark
Subject: [Questions / Comments] Heat shield fabric

Joe Berki sent a message using the contact form at https://www.designengineering.com//contact.

Can the heat shiel fabric be sewn together to create a heat shield cover.T





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