Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #61571
From: James R. Osborn <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] 20B EnginesRe: [FlyRotary] 20B Engines
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 10:10:24 -0800
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
You can still get a 20B for $5k, but the provenance is less well known.  Judging from the photos online I have seen, you can’t always see the tops of the rotor housings to be able to read the codes.  What’s the aviation take on the Racing Beat aluminum side housings for the 20B?  They also do peripheral ports on brand new rotor housings.  How about a 20B three rotor, peripheral intake, all aluminum motor?  Drool?

http://www.racingbeat.com/RX7-1986-1992/Rotor-Intermediate-Housings/11024.html

— James

On Feb 10, 2015, at 9:48 PM, cbeazley <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Some old posts referencing even older posts:
http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Message/54134.html

20B was between 2nd and 3rd gen with features of both - IIRC, the center-iron is NoLongerAvailable.  Later model C/D versions were more coveted for massive turbo installations.
Last I checked, the heavier 20B and 93-95 rear irons were still available (new) if you really feel the need to change out a rear iron - IIRC, both could work, 1 extra bolt on the 20B auto iron.
You used to be able to buy a 20B for 3-5k with all the fixin's long block/front clip.
For 10K you could do an aftermarket 4rotor install and make everyone drool ;)

Cheers
C

Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Archived Message #61569

From: James R. Osborn <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] 20B Engines
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 09:28:01 -0800
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
More importantly to me, how do you ensure you are getting a newer one when you buy an engine?  I have seen them for sale from importers in the $10k+ price range.  Is there a particular year of Eunos Cosmo engine to look for?

On Feb 10, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Marc.
What are the numbers that indicate a later version?
Bill 
 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:56 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B Engines
 
There are 3 series of 20B engines IIRC. The center housing and the crank on some of the earlier versions was reported to be a weak link……..later versions had mods to some internal parts. I have a later version of the 20B. You can tell from the rotor housing engine numbers (where the 20B is in black surround).
Marc
 
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 4:17 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B Engines
 
Thanks Mark........That is the info I was looking for............I happen to have a 13B Cosmo that has the later housings
and I had only read about the reinforced housings.........
 
Kelly
 
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 6:49 AM, Mark Steitle <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Kelly, 

I wouldn't hesitate to use an early 20b.  The early 20b housings are plenty robust enough for a/c use.  The beefier irons could be an issue if you're building a turbo race engine due to the higher loads imposed during up shifting and down shifting.  We don't experience any of those loads.  

I'm pretty certain that my 20b is an early model and I have not experienced any issues with irons cracking around the dowels.  The weakest area is along the inner walls of the o-ring grooves nearest the water jackets. If your o-rings aren't to factory specs, you run the risk of cracking an o-ring wall which ruins the housing.  Been there, done that.  If you treat the engine with the same care you would a certified a/c engine, then you won't have any trouble with longevity. 

Mark
 
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Kelly Troyer <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
 Mark Steitle or other 20B Drivers,
 
     I am looking at a 20B that looks to be an early one before they added additional
metal in the dowel/oil passage area of the iron housings because of some that I have
read developed cracks in this area in service in the autos I presume.......
 
     Can you tell me if this a potential problem for the 20B in our aircraft use ?.......Also
can you tell me if your 20B has the later reinforced housings ?.........  
 
-- 

Kelly Troyer



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