IIRC, the bare 13B block weighed 180 with water pump but nothing else, not even the oil pan.The 20B was 70 pounds heavier but that was with a 13B waterpump setup, not the heavier 20B pump assembly.Tracy Sent from my iPadOn Feb 8, 2015, at 13:36, Kelly Troyer <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:Thanks Mark..........Very possible I will buy the 20B I mentioned so after stripping all the unneeded auto stuff off I will have at least a a bare block weight........I certainly would go for the alum RX8 water-pump/housing mod that you have..........I already have the RX8 alum front cover.........Not sure I would do the P-port mod as these things already have more power than I will ever need for my project..........Was planning on a Turbo 13B butthe added weight and complexity of the turbo tends to make the NA 20B look doable.....Thanks,Kelly On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Mark, You posted some videos on utube a while back. Have you made any recently? Folks like me really like to watch them! Bill From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 5:13 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B weight Kelly, That's a tough one. The 3-rotor weight typically quoted is 295#, but this isn't fwf. Take into account that I am running dual alternators, an aluminum Renesis water pump housing and aluminum water pump, p-port intake, and it is difficult to say the fwf weight. What I can say is that my a/c weighed in at 2050#, which is very close to the typical Lycoming Lancair. Going by that, I would guess that my fwf 20b weighs close to what a fwf IO-540 weighs. Going at it from a different angle, I believe the W&B showed about 550# on the nose gear. That would be a pretty good ballpark number for FWF. Its been a while, so I would have to check the logs to see exactly what the weights were when first inspected. Mark On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Kelly Troyer <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Mark, Can you give me a wire wall forward weight of your 20B minus the oil & water radiators and your constant speed prop or your best estimate ??........... Thanks, Kelly
Thanks Mark..........Very possible I will buy the 20B I mentioned so after stripping all the unneeded auto stuff off I will have at least a a bare block weight........I certainly would go for the alum RX8 water-pump/housing mod that you have..........I already have the RX8 alum front cover.........Not sure I would do the P-port mod as these things already have more power than I will ever need for my project..........Was planning on a Turbo 13B butthe added weight and complexity of the turbo tends to make the NA 20B look doable.....Thanks,Kelly On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Mark, You posted some videos on utube a while back. Have you made any recently? Folks like me really like to watch them! Bill From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 5:13 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B weight Kelly, That's a tough one. The 3-rotor weight typically quoted is 295#, but this isn't fwf. Take into account that I am running dual alternators, an aluminum Renesis water pump housing and aluminum water pump, p-port intake, and it is difficult to say the fwf weight. What I can say is that my a/c weighed in at 2050#, which is very close to the typical Lycoming Lancair. Going by that, I would guess that my fwf 20b weighs close to what a fwf IO-540 weighs. Going at it from a different angle, I believe the W&B showed about 550# on the nose gear. That would be a pretty good ballpark number for FWF. Its been a while, so I would have to check the logs to see exactly what the weights were when first inspected. Mark On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Kelly Troyer <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Mark, Can you give me a wire wall forward weight of your 20B minus the oil & water radiators and your constant speed prop or your best estimate ??........... Thanks, Kelly
Mark, You posted some videos on utube a while back. Have you made any recently? Folks like me really like to watch them! Bill From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 5:13 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B weight Kelly, That's a tough one. The 3-rotor weight typically quoted is 295#, but this isn't fwf. Take into account that I am running dual alternators, an aluminum Renesis water pump housing and aluminum water pump, p-port intake, and it is difficult to say the fwf weight. What I can say is that my a/c weighed in at 2050#, which is very close to the typical Lycoming Lancair. Going by that, I would guess that my fwf 20b weighs close to what a fwf IO-540 weighs. Going at it from a different angle, I believe the W&B showed about 550# on the nose gear. That would be a pretty good ballpark number for FWF. Its been a while, so I would have to check the logs to see exactly what the weights were when first inspected. Mark On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Kelly Troyer <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Mark, Can you give me a wire wall forward weight of your 20B minus the oil & water radiators and your constant speed prop or your best estimate ??........... Thanks, Kelly
Mark,
You posted some videos on utube a while back. Have you made any recently? Folks like me really like to watch them!
Bill
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 5:13 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B weight
Kelly,
That's a tough one. The 3-rotor weight typically quoted is 295#, but this isn't fwf. Take into account that I am running dual alternators, an aluminum Renesis water pump housing and aluminum water pump, p-port intake, and it is difficult to say the fwf weight. What I can say is that my a/c weighed in at 2050#, which is very close to the typical Lycoming Lancair. Going by that, I would guess that my fwf 20b weighs close to what a fwf IO-540 weighs.
Going at it from a different angle, I believe the W&B showed about 550# on the nose gear. That would be a pretty good ballpark number for FWF. Its been a while, so I would have to check the logs to see exactly what the weights were when first inspected.
Mark
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Kelly Troyer <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Can you give me a wire wall forward weight of your 20B minus the oil & water radiators
and your constant speed prop or your best estimate ??...........
Thanks,
Kelly