Steve, attached is the Hanover cooling system diagram … note all the cooling elements (radiator, hoses, filler bottle) are completely full of glycol (green); only the expansion tank (approx 1 litre, with stant lever cap) has room for air,
filled only about 1/3. The location of the expansion tank is shown higher than everything else in the diagram but can actually be located lower; what is important is the connections be as shown, i.e., highest point of saturated cooling system connects to
bottom of expansion tank, expansion tank is only 1/3 full and this is where you install the pressure cap. Attached is also a photo of my swirl-pot/expansion-tank; note it is not the highest point in the system; the bottom connects to the highest point (water
pump outlet); the top is connected to an tire valve for pressurization and also the system pressure gauge. Not shown but later installed, is the rear iron (closest to prop) was T’d into the TOP port of the expansion tank with 1/8” restrictors in hose to remove
air from the engine block.
Gurgling sounds are not good; there are two o-rings per iron, per rotor housing. The inner is the combustion o-ring and the outer is the water-jacket o-ring. If you are getting gurgling sounds then it is possible that coolant is getting
past the compression o-ring into the combustion chamber. This can be checked easily but removing your exhaust, turning over the engine by hand and watching for signs of coolant being expelled when the apex seals pass over the exhaust port. If there is a milky
film on the dip stick then it is possible that coolant is also getting past the coolant o-ring at bottom of engine and leaking into the oil sump. Either situation if true constitutes an engine tear-down and rebuild. The Bruce-T video is what I used to overhaul
my engine/s.
This leads to the question: “Where did your engine come from and what was done to it prior to installation on your project”?
Jeff
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"steve Izett" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Sat, 24 May 2014 07:57:48 +0800
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Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Hi guys
We are just finishing our Glasair SIIRG with a Renesis 4 port.
Started her up after finishing main wiring and she burst into life. (without prop at the moment).
~70psi oil pressure oil and water temps building. Ran it for 5 mins or so before shutdown not wanting temps above 200.
We worked out that if we lifted the tail up we could get some more air out and water in.
I have some questions/concerns:
1. Gurgling sound emanating from oil filler/breather with white substance on the oil dip stick. Concerned water may be getting into sump. What are the symptoms of o-ring failure? So much to learn
re rotaries.
2. If we do need to tear it down, any great sources of how to go about it. Remembering years ago seeing Bruce T had a video?
3. We are working on an expansion tank design and wondered if someone could share the important elements of a good cooling system design. Looking at photos of other aircraft I’ve seen lines to
expansion tanks from A. Rear iron port. B. Radiator tank top. etc. A. Is height of tank significant? B. Volume required? C. How much air should be left in the tank? D. Cap style?.
So much appreciate having this list.
Steve Izett
Perth Western Australia
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