X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Christamarmc" Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com ([209.85.160.54] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6904391 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 24 May 2014 18:07:55 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.160.54; envelope-from=christamarmc@gmail.com Received: by mail-pb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id jt11so5824593pbb.27 for ; Sat, 24 May 2014 15:07:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=jvMCv+tPMwhjeI+Dfi6QG+u29LC28mHeeLZj7PqjSZI=; b=kyaPIQmqPbwK6wCZdCOtmTSrUpZ/ZWh+wdsYRnpGq6syHbjV7rhw9j6icrsESBvakB /E/V73i7H8mR0vDl+CdPCWTidw25n+lr8F+ATrREkQ/soR51rlfhoVlEFDfR8+mDhqXX ZN/cQteCZJ6IO1zMtemQ6RdFDq1hhCaD92XioS7DqvAD72EXrfq97eAaScc9NcwlLoUj jIulBGKAClmfRvuP3LPmoQ8haK9vluSBmeP8nUdrv/xPn8Qus2pWMIaCllAGtlsxm7E5 sClEmyGhPDf3wkFrlblxgV88/4vtX/7ovTX3/bcDBus5FYeg7SGiOUPhmQYIZskRUpiV NF2Q== X-Received: by 10.66.146.170 with SMTP id td10mr16826712pab.105.1400969241249; Sat, 24 May 2014 15:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.0.2] (196.50.168.125.sta.wbroadband.net.au. [125.168.50.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uk1sm34265366pac.26.2014.05.24.15.07.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 24 May 2014 15:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: start References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B651) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 08:07:19 +1000 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Hi Steve Christian here on the east coast of aus, i have a copy of a cd that goes thr= ough the engine rebuild process if you need one, just drop me an email and I= 'll send you a copy and can help with what I've done if you like Cheers Christian Sent from my iPad > On 25 May 2014, at 1:39 am, "Charlie England" wrote: >=20 >> On 5/23/2014 6:57 PM, steve Izett wrote: >> Hi guys >>=20 >> We are just finishing our Glasair SIIRG with a Renesis 4 port. >> Started her up after finishing main wiring and she burst into life. (with= out prop at the moment). >> ~70psi oil pressure oil and water temps building. Ran it for 5 mins or so= before shutdown not wanting temps above 200. >> We worked out that if we lifted the tail up we could get some more air ou= t and water in. >> I have some questions/concerns: >>=20 >> 1. Gurgling sound emanating from oil filler/breather with white substance= on the oil dip stick. Concerned water may be getting into sump. What are th= e symptoms of o-ring failure? So much to learn re rotaries. >>=20 >> 2. If we do need to tear it down, any great sources of how to go about it= . Remembering years ago seeing Bruce T had a video? >>=20 >> 3. We are working on an expansion tank design and wondered if someone cou= ld share the important elements of a good cooling system design. Looking at p= hotos of other aircraft I=E2=80=99ve seen lines to expansion tanks from A. R= ear iron port. B. Radiator tank top. etc. A. Is height of tank significant? B= . Volume required? C. How much air should be left in the tank? D. Cap style?= . >>=20 >> So much appreciate having this list. >>=20 >>=20 >> Steve Izett >> Perth Western Australia > I failed to answer several questions. > 1. 'Chocolate milk' looking oil does sound like coolant contamination (my e= xperience was with a piston engine 40 yrs ago). You can add a schrader valve= (tire valve) and pressure gauge to the coolant system, pressurize with air o= n top of your coolant up to your cap limit, and wait a day to see if it's lo= sing pressure. (It will fluctuate slightly with ambient temperature, if ther= e's much air in the system.) >=20 > 2. There was a video, but I don't have one. >=20 > 3B: Most automotive swirl pots I've looked at are between 1 & 2 quarts (so= rry for the archaic measure; I live in the USA...). I've got several from di= fferent salvage yard cars (all with ~20 lb caps) that I collected to see if a= ny would work on my installation. Upside is, most are translucent, making co= olant level checks a lot more convenient. :-) >=20 > 3D: See previous emails. A lot of guys use ~20 pound caps. This is higher t= han older automotive systems (most were ~14 lbs), but fairly common on newer= cars with pressurized swirl pot style systems. Higher cap pressures are sup= posed to help prevent unneeded venting of coolant at altitude, where ambient= pressure is lower & will effectively lower the pressure point (cap pressure= is the difference between system and ambient). >=20 > Charlie >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List= .html