X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Neil Unger" Received: from nschwmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com ([61.9.189.149] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTP id 6891513 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 21 May 2014 17:18:00 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=61.9.189.149; envelope-from=neil.unger@bigpond.com Received: from nschwcmgw07p ([61.9.190.167]) by nschwmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20140521211726.GGAV14630.nschwmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwcmgw07p> for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 21:17:26 +0000 Received: from UserPC ([124.176.123.207]) by nschwcmgw07p with BigPond Outbound id 4lHM1o00F4Ubhd001lHMbe; Wed, 21 May 2014 21:17:26 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Os7NOlDt c=1 sm=1 a=RZfABDHLkXdUCqlg+XDlMA==:17 a=apXVPKgzSlMA:10 a=JDadKst33uMA:10 a=1IlZJK9HAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=arxwEM4EAAAA:8 a=r1ClD_H3AAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=vFAvRcPy9j1pvUucmTwA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=KezjmzEJ9pfA1nerokAA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=RZfABDHLkXdUCqlg+XDlMA==:117 Message-ID: <90F72625795B41D188CC8BEEF3C08283@UserPC> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Spline failure on Egg Sube PSRU Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 07:17:15 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01CF758D.DB9B4BA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CF758D.DB9B4BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, I could write a book on my unfortunate dealings with = Eggenfellner. My original Redrive never even flew before it was = grounded by Egg himself, but he would graciously would allow me to buy = the upgraded model for something like $5000 with no compensation for the = one I bought with the original package. I just cannot believe this = bloke is allowed to still operate, he should have been = =E2=80=9Ccaressed=E2=80=9D with a brick years ago. The fact that his = redrive has failed does not surprise me at all, everything about his = work seemed dodgy with his clients doing all his R & D. Neil. From: Charlie England=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:21 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Spline failure on Egg Sube PSRU Bill,=20 Was this a report on Eggenfelner (sp?) drives? If so, you know almost = all you need to know. :-)=20 If you aren't familiar with his story, it won't take long to find a = long, bloody trail of on-line info about him. He has a long history of = throwing together a pig, covering it with lipstick, and then forcing his = customers to buy his next experimental pig when the previous pig dies. Charlie On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Ed Anderson = wrote: Don=E2=80=99t know if it has any bearing on the topic, but one thing = to note is that the rotary is much easier on the gear train. There are = no torque reversal regions in its cycle as there are with piston 4 = stroke engines. Also the power impulse is a bit smoother (covers more = deg of rotation) than with a piston engine. So what may survive with = the rotary, may not with a piston engine. Tracy has certainly studied = this area and will undoubtedly have more astute observations. Ed Edward L. Anderson Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC 305 Reefton Road Weddington, NC 28104 http://www.andersonee.com http://www.eicommander.com From: Bill Bradburry=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:45 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Spline failure on Egg Sube PSRU I have the NTSB report on the PSRU failure for the Subes. The file is = too large ~700 kb to send to the list. Anyone interested can email me = and I will send them a copy. I am wondering if there are there any things we can learn about our = PSRUs from this? Does this spline failure bring any ideas for = inspections that we perhaps should do? Tracy?? Bill=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3950/7529 - Release Date: = 05/20/14 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CF758D.DB9B4BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All,
        I could write a book on = my=20 unfortunate dealings with Eggenfellner.  My original Redrive never = even=20 flew before it was grounded by Egg himself, but he would graciously = would allow=20 me to buy the upgraded model for something like $5000 with no = compensation for=20 the one I bought with the original package.  I just cannot believe = this=20 bloke is allowed to still operate, he should have been = =E2=80=9Ccaressed=E2=80=9D  with a=20 brick years ago.   The fact that his redrive has failed does = not=20 surprise me at all, everything about his work seemed dodgy with his = clients=20 doing all his R & D.  Neil.
 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:21 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Spline failure on Egg Sube=20 PSRU
 
Bill,=20
 
Was this a report on Eggenfelner (sp?) drives? If so, you know = almost all=20 you need to know. :-)
 
If you aren't familiar with his story, it won't take long to find a = long,=20 bloody trail of on-line info about him. He has a long history of = throwing=20 together a pig, covering it with lipstick, and then forcing his = customers to buy=20 his next experimental pig when the previous pig dies.
 
Charlie


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Ed Anderson = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Don=E2=80=99t know if it has any bearing on the topic, but one = thing to note is=20 that the rotary is much easier on the gear train.  There are no = torque=20 reversal regions in its cycle as there are with piston 4 stroke = engines. =20 Also the power impulse is a bit smoother (covers more deg of rotation) = than=20 with a piston engine.  So what may survive with the rotary, may = not with=20 a piston engine.  Tracy has certainly studied this area and will=20 undoubtedly have more astute observations.
 
Ed
Edward L.=20 Anderson
Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC
305 Reefton=20 Road
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.andersonee.com
http://www.eicommander.com
 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:45 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Spline failure on Egg Sube=20 PSRU
 

I have the = NTSB=20 report on the PSRU failure for the Subes.  The file is too large = ~700 kb=20 to send to the list.  Anyone interested can email me and I will = send them=20 a copy.

I am = wondering if=20 there are there any things we can learn about our PSRUs from = this?  Does=20 this spline failure bring any ideas for inspections that we perhaps = should=20 do?  = Tracy??

 

Bill=20

 


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