Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #60883
From: Thomas Giddings <n360tg@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Switcheroo from turbo to not
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:56:13 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Ok...We all gotta know..which ECU and did your fuel burn increase>:)
KIND REGARDS
Thomas Giddings
727 858 1772



On Apr 11, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Neil Unger wrote:

Your EGT is interesting.  I could easily get up to 1850 degrees at WOT.  over about 5 hours I managed to burn out 2 sets of EGT probes due to heat.  Then I managed to stuff up Tracy;s ECU which mandated a return for repair.  While waiting for it’s return I had the offer of a different ECU.  Once wired in and set I found that the max EGT that I now get is 1725 degrees.  Nothing else has been changed.  The only difference between this unit and Tracy’s is that this has a trigger box which I suspect gets the spark away just that fraction quicker and may in fact make the spark advanced over Tracy’s.  The new unit sits at 27 degrees BTDC at  WOT.  Would like Tracy to chime in on this one as my expertise is mechanical, certainly not electrical.   It may also be  imagination, but the exhaust seems quieter.   Neil.
 
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 8:14 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Switcheroo from turbo to not
 
Sounds like a prudent plan to me.

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On Apr 11, 2014, at 4:51 PM, shipchief@aol.com wrote:

I went out to the Hangar last Tuesday to start installing the intercooler. Well, at least to fit a few tubes and hoses, then hold up some parts and make plans.
As I took the air discharge tube off the compressor, I noticed the whole turbo compressor & bearing assembly wiggling around on the turbine housing!
I checked all the mounting bolts and clips, everything was tight.
So I took the turbo off the engine, and realized that I probably cooked the turbine housing. I did see EGT excursions to 1800F. What's worse, I had a new turbo blanket. I think a heat shield would have been better, so some cooling air could pass over the housing, but still block radiant heat.
Bummer.
So I decided to go with Plan B: I ordered the bits and tube bends to switch to naturally aspirated operation. I'm keeping the exhaust header that the turbo sat upon, and replacing everything else past the bottom of the firewall, to the new pipe & muffler I recently added.
I'm retaining the ability to 'Go Turbo' later, but I've become curious about what the turbo must boost to equal full throttle of 'Naturally Aspirated'.
I did build and have been running a tuned intake manifold. The exhaust won't be a tuned header, but it is pretty good, possibly better than the stock exhaust reactor and a whole lot lighter. It has port discharge nozzles (reversion cones) EGT probes and a gentle sweeping shape. Plus it's proven strong while carrying the weight of the turbo beyond 1800F, and it passed inspection. I trust it.
So I hope to run it, find the performance satisfactory, the fuel consumption significantly reduced, and use 87 octane ethanol free mogas instead of 92. (low compression rotors)
Also, I can advance the timing to the NA spec. 
Anyone see a problem or have advise?

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