Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #60032
From: Tracy <rwstracy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fwd: [FlyRotary] Re: : Misfire
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:10:26 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Scott, are you saying the trailing spark plug hole WAS opened up?  
Turbocharged or not, don't EVER do that!  And don't let your engine builder do,that.
If the engine could be improved simply with a bigger hole there, Mazda would have certainly done it.   

Yes, that could promote detonation.

Tracy

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On Jul 31, 2013, at 20:03, Scott Emery <shipchief@aol.com> wrote:

So my engine may have detonated simply because the engine builder opened up the upper (trailing) spark plug holes to improve the redundant dual ignition idea of an aircraft engine?
As rpm and boost increased the compression of the intake charge? The fire could jump the apex seal at the big hole and light the leading edge of the intake charge just as the intake ports are closing?!

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On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Lehanover@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 7/30/2013 1:36:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Lehanover@aol.com writes:
The rotary has three features that make for a poor idle compared to a piston engine.
 
Heat of compression.
The rise in chamber temperature caused by compressing the fuel/air mixture.
The rotary has poor heat of compression because of the large surface are of the chamber, and much of the chamber surface is cooled. Low heat of compression allows fuel droplets to condense on the chamber surfaces and the engine sees this as a mixture that is too lean to light.
 
Compression leakage:
The rotor face has many end gaps through which it leaks compression.
 
For example, on NA rotaries I gap the side seal to corner seal at zero. So long as the combination of two side seals and the joining corner seal pop back up when depressed and released, that is sufficient. The zero gap will become a measurable gap shortly after break in. Overly wide end gaps lead to leakage of compression, and that leads to lowered heat of compression as above.
 
Effective compression ratio:
 
At idle and near idle, the amount of air allowed into the engine is minimal. So the computer limits the injection pulse width accordingly.So the cylinder filling is minimal, and so heat of compression is minimal.
 
So, if the same amount of cylinder filling is used. The rotor with the higher compression ratio will generate fewer misses and a smoother idle. Because for a fixed cylinder filling number, the higher compression rotor produces the highest heat of compression. 
 
Higher heat of compression means better fuel vaporization and a more thorough burn.
 
A misfire is an event wherein a dose or part of a dose of mixture was not lighted at or near the correct time during the cycle.
A misfire that involves no burned mixture is a noticeable event, in that the engine will be out of balance for that cycle. The engine will wiggle in its mount. A misfire that involves a trailing plug will not be noticed at or near idle. A misfire that involves the leading plug can be noticed by the very attentive.
 
A popping sound in the headers or exhaust in general with no engine wiggle is more likely a small air leak in the header, that allows oxygen to mix in the header with some as yet unburned fuel. The popping is this mixture igniting. Very likely to be experienced on long closed throttle descents.
 
A misfire at higher throttle settings and full power, will be very noticeable, as an unlighted charge between two lighted charges will produce quite an imbalance jerk in the engine, and the mixture from the misfire will light in the header right outside the engine. So you get a jerk and a loud change in engine tone.
This does not damage the engine, but can damage the exhaust system and, or, ruin a muffler. As has been seen, a damaged muffler can stop an engine or reduce it's power out put to useless levels.
 
Lynn E. Hanover
 
 
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