X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-bk0-f50.google.com ([209.85.214.50] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6391403 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 21:13:07 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.214.50; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by mail-bk0-f50.google.com with SMTP id ik8so97413bkc.23 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:12:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jwvlgE2Ueb23huL8g+LB5oBerFMYnZT2KEMYMaNsQtk=; b=gEAb3NsBCf9Kqpg9tnDW7CD1OM64TCD+uL+7nKUQTiic4XGHbC9uUNhGppk1DecZ6I uy4BHHJQxlTiRyjr7c1NTgQFiK3BLSmtUNBS1lpfE6DYVfVCKRu6xV63MMdtoWpbz1IF fdWTbeeFilxL49rbJ27Dz1cqUWd3UyWGyEYKp7u/4scJqXjybB0eY+V6NSykXJqCr4M1 WP/z/VwTarUvpPVxl6jjMiuxmLhnGEPxsCuR73070RX2KWljj+0ID3vIUZqWh5/EibBi Uelhjj2YAPska32RmtBumsz625hE+ooDgeU/tgQxAKsH/CSjbzhS11BhU0nNCDFnPuOr wTMg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.63.12 with SMTP id z12mr1675326bkh.44.1374801150602; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.38.74 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:12:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:12:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] coolers mounted directly to rotary From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c393ee381f4004e25fd6b5 --001a11c393ee381f4004e25fd6b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Steve, Going with your assumption that the rotary runs so smooth that isolation of the oil cooler is not necessary. Now suppose one rotor quits while at altitude (fouled plug, failed coil, plugged injector, etc.) and you have to find a place to land. The engine will be running very rough no doubt. The last thing you need at that time is a secondary emergency in the form of an oil fire. You're much safer to mount the oil cooler to the motor mount than to the engine. Just say'in. Mark On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Stephen Izett wrote: > Hi guys > > Would really appreciate your thoughts here. > We made a decision way back to mount the oil cooler hard to the redrive > being fed from the left cheek. > This was made on the basis of a belief that the rotary runs very smooth. > We recently built up the diffuser for it, trying to allow for some > movement but I have significant concerns. > > If we are going to shift it, now is the time! > > I remember Mark S commenting on having mounted to the redrive (with some > form of rubber isolation) then redesigned of the engine. > > Key concerns are: > 1. Vibration breaking one of the many joints in the cooler and subsequent > high pressure oil flow and possible fire. > 2. Seal between diffuser and core. > > Thanks > > Steve Izett > Glasair SIIRG with Renesis > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --001a11c393ee381f4004e25fd6b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Steve,=A0

Going with your assumption th= at the rotary runs so smooth that isolation of the oil cooler is not necess= ary. =A0Now suppose one rotor quits while at altitude (fouled plug, failed = coil, plugged injector, etc.) and you have to find a place to land. =A0The = engine will be running very rough no doubt. =A0The last thing you need at t= hat time is a secondary emergency in the form of an oil fire. =A0You're= much safer to mount the oil cooler to the motor mount than to the engine. = =A0Just say'in.

Mark


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Stephen Izett <ste= veizett@me.com> wrote:
Hi guys

Would really appreciate your thoughts here.
We made a decision way back to mount the oil cooler hard to the redrive bei= ng fed from the left cheek.
This was made on the basis of a belief that the rotary runs very smooth. We recently built up the diffuser for it, trying to allow for some movement= but I have significant concerns.

If we are going to shift it, now is the time!

I remember Mark S commenting on having mounted to the redrive (with some fo= rm of rubber isolation) then redesigned of the engine.

Key concerns are:
1. Vibration breaking one of the many joints in the cooler and subsequent h= igh pressure oil flow and possible fire.
2. Seal between diffuser and core.

Thanks

Steve Izett
Glasair SIIRG with Renesis
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Homepage: =A0http:/= /www.flyrotary.com/
Archive and UnSub: =A0 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists= /flyrotary/List.html

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