X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.27.227] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTP id 6085881 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:58:14 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.27.227; envelope-from=hoursaway1@comcast.net Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5DsA1l0091eYJf8ACDxeyy; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:57:38 +0000 Received: from sz0081.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5Dxe1l0062yr1eL01Dxei6; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:57:38 +0000 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:57:38 +0000 (UTC) From: hoursaway1@comcast.net To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-ID: <2010018889.1616270.1361930258129.JavaMail.root@sz0081a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: O2 Sensor data, Steve B. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1616269_155236221.1361930258128" X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:68.40.10.159] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - IE8 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1361930258; bh=WHhMRQvgbLy2K2waJY5MVHHqpKZoWEdKDbmOxVMq3Nc=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=BWAh0uPicL/YKcLJ6Cawq3+vcXA0yZRVdfBqV1LN3PE65iNqt8sjGQqZImjyti1el JNav3BfCC3NxGBUklfghNFrhprdCzdsCpLR8eWmTV/JAMpd9ckL10+PORWnXEJbXje jAyR6DNFYcxXhSP2ZCVVplRZiqofXYZxqq61xsGVopU0nqYb4nmg86xBzdG/FOYzfk ekBa49t9zyR5YdZOzUxJ2pbo9FdRZlvWL5qACyJHX8svXJpx40cKMo2JVHHbAt+jxd D8UicrRB1l0SKjPR2bVB114Fl96P+morM4S9WI+eWZZs75wV0AF8W4SvfriK/FMplo ycmytJHd+oHTA== ------=_Part_1616269_155236221.1361930258128 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We should not need the heater because our temps are consistently high,=C2= =A0 also the heater in the auto is always being switched on & off to regula= te the temp at low eng. RPM=C2=A0, this is only on OBD2 sys. ( newer cars, = boats )=C2=A0 Heaters on the older cars was used to get the sys. to op. tem= p as fast as poss. for the Government,,,, no wait=C2=A0 I mean emissions ya= that's the ticket.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 David=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bradburry" =20 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" =20 Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:14:30 PM=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: O2 Sensor data, =C2=A0Steve B.=20 You don=E2=80=99t need the heater in our application.=C2=A0 Why hook it up?= =20 =C2=A0=20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of Ed Anderson=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:05 PM=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: O2 Sensor data, Steve B.=20 =C2=A0=20 Richard, regarding the =C2=A0Ellison TB=20 =C2=A0=20 I have a friend who tried an Ellison on his rotary - never could get the lo= w end and high end to work together.=C2=A0 It appeared that (at least for t= he size Ellison he was using) that the range of airflow quantity below idle= and WOT was outside the range of the size Ellison he was using.=C2=A0 If h= e got the idle set right, he ran out of fuel on the top end.=C2=A0 If he go= t the top end running right, the idle was too rich.=20 =C2=A0=20 His engine eventually quit in flight, airframe was destroyed - he fortunate= ly escaped injury.=C2=A0 Just thought I would pass it on for what its worth= .=20 =C2=A0=20 Most O2 heater voltages are 12 -13 Volts - but, not certain about the Renes= is O2.=20 Sensor output for narrow band is generally =C2=A0from 0 -1 volt, Wide band = from 0 -5 volts.=20 =C2=A0=20 Ed=20 =C2=A0=20 Edward L. Anderson=20 Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC=20 305 Reefton Road=20 Weddington, NC 28104=20 http://www.andersonee.com=20 http://www.eicommander.com=20 =C2=A0=20 From: Richard Sohn=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:27 PM=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: O2 Sensor data, Steve B.=20 =C2=A0=20 I am planing to use an O2 sensor from a 2009 Renesis on my test engine. Doe= s anyone know what the heater supply is? I am measureing 2.4Ohm, cold. Prob= ably 5V? The connection is coming out of the ECU.=20 Would appreciate any info on that.=20 Still having issues with the mixture setting on the Rotec TBI (Ellison). No= real flying yet, just a lot of crow-hopping down the runway.=20 =C2=A0=20 Richard Sohn=20 N2071U=20 http://www.fairpoint.net/~res12/home.html=20 =C2=A0=20 From: hoursaway1@comcast.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:32 AM=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: O2 Sensor data, Steve B.=20 =C2=A0=20 Forgot to say, under diog. for RX8 they call both sensors HO2 not AF.=C2=A0= ???=C2=A0 David.=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: hoursaway1@comcast.net=20 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" =20 Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:29:12 AM=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] O2 Sensor data,=C2=A0 Steve B.=20 Steve, another update on O2 sensor data,,, for a 2007 RX8 frnt. HO2 sensor = is read in mil. Amps,,, 1.0 mil. amp is center point under accell is lookin= g for decrease,=C2=A0 under deccell looking for increase,=C2=A0 did not giv= e min.-max. for the high & low that I think could have been useful.=C2=A0 D= avid.=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven W. Boese" =20 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" =20 Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 9:50:49 PM=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Crickets & progress=20 David,=20 =C2=A0=20 Do you remember ballpark values for the amps and volts?=20 =C2=A0=20 Thanks,=20 =C2=A0=20 Steve=20 =C2=A0=20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of = hoursaway1@comcast.net [hoursaway1@comcast.net]=20 Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 7:19 PM=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Crickets & progress=20 Steve, I'm not sure why but when diog. the other day on 07 Mazda 3 for a co= de P2188,=C2=A0 Snap-on scanner shows me amps for pre cat. AF sensor & volt= s for post cat. O2 sensor & that is how they describe them in Mitchel Autom= otive diog. text.=C2=A0 Hope this helps in some way.=C2=A0 David R. Cook=C2= =A0 RV6A Rotary.=20 --=20 Homepage:=C2=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/=20 Archive and UnSub:=C2=A0=C2=A0 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyro= tary/List.html=20 No virus found in this message.=20 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6130 - Release Date: 02/25/13 ------=_Part_1616269_155236221.1361930258128 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>We should= not need the heater because our temps are consistently high,  also th= e heater in the auto is always being switched on & off to regulate the = temp at low eng. RPM , this is only on OBD2 sys. ( newer cars, boats )=   Heaters on the older cars was used to get the sys. to op. temp as fa= st as poss. for the Government,,,, no wait  I mean emissions ya that's= the ticket.       David

From: "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sen= t: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:14:30 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary]= Re: O2 Sensor data,  Steve B.

You don=E2=80=99t nee= d the heater in our application.  Why hook it up?

 <= /P>

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013= 1:05 PM
To: Rotary moto= rs in aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re: O2 Sensor data, Steve B.

 

Richard, regarding the  Ellison TB

 

I have a friend who tried an Ellison on his rotar= y - never could get the low end and high end to work together.  It app= eared that (at least for the size Ellison he was using) that the range of a= irflow quantity below idle and WOT was outside the range of the size Elliso= n he was using.  If he got the idle set right, he ran out of fuel on t= he top end.  If he got the top end running right, the idle was too ric= h.

 

His engine eventually quit in flight, airframe wa= s destroyed - he fortunately escaped injury.  Just thought I would pas= s it on for what its worth.

 

Most O2 heater voltages are 12 -13 Volts - but, n= ot certain about the Renesis O2.

Sensor output for narrow band is generally  = from 0 -1 volt, Wide band from 0 -5 volts.

 

Ed

 

Edward L. Anderson
Anderson Electronic Enterpr= ises LLC
305 Reefton Road
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.andersonee.com
http://www.eicommander.co= m

 

From: Richard Sohn

Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:27 PM<= /SPAN>

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: O2 Sensor data, = Steve B.

 

I am planing to u= se an O2 sensor from a 2009 Renesis on my test engine. Does anyone know wha= t the heater supply is? I am measureing 2.4Ohm, cold. Probably 5V? The conn= ection is coming out of the ECU.

Would appreciate = any info on that.

Still having issu= es with the mixture setting on the Rotec TBI (Ellison). No real flying yet,= just a lot of crow-hopping down the runway.

 

Richard Sohn
N= 2071U

http://www.fairpoint.net/~res12/home.html

 

Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:32 AM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: O2 Sensor data, Steve B.

 

Forgot to say, under diog. for RX8 they call both sensors HO2 not = AF.  ???  David.

From: hoursaway1@co= mcast.net
To: "Rotary mo= tors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:29:12 AMSubject: [FlyRotary] O2 S= ensor data,  Steve B.

Steve, another update on O2 sensor data,,, for a 2007 RX8 frnt. HO= 2 sensor is read in mil. Amps,,, 1.0 mil. amp is center point under accell = is looking for decrease,  under deccell looking for increase,  di= d not give min.-max. for the high & low that I think could have been us= eful.  David.

From: "Steven W. Bo= ese" <SBoese@uwyo.edu>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>Sent: Monday, February 11,= 2013 9:50:49 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Crickets & progress

David,

 

Do you remember ballpark values for t= he amps and volts?

 

Thanks,

 

Steve

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on= behalf of hoursaway1@comcast.net [hoursaway1@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 7:19 PM<= BR>To: Rotary motors in air= craft
Subject: [FlyRotar= y] Re: Crickets & progress

Steve, I'm not sure why but when diog. the other day on 07 Mazda 3= for a code P2188,  Snap-on scanner shows me amps for pre cat. AF sens= or & volts for post cat. O2 sensor & that is how they describe them= in Mitchel Automotive diog. text.  Hope this helps in some way. = David R. Cook  RV6A Rotary.

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