X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.42] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c2) with ESMTP id 5841304 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 00:57:22 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.206.42; envelope-from=CozyGirrrl@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q9P4ugtG006962 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 00:56:42 -0400 Received: from core-dsb002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dsb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.253.5]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B0B5BE000085 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 00:56:42 -0400 (EDT) From: CozyGirrrl@aol.com Message-ID: <31a43.6d6005f0.3dba208a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 00:56:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Here we go again.... To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_31a43.6d6005f0.3dba208a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5004 X-Originating-IP: [69.153.168.147] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1351141002; bh=AvFqw7WiuWv6Ht+uuBPtkM9NuJfQnVXFHQLpVsMtlDE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vn3feGphekHWXCajNvhS+K7FeYnH5Vp81jhn8ygiGnBU85bRAxZGg3cf45oJA1Hyy 5xwuuyXePjYoZ0a/6/wE3wmqtZ6knOA6JNnDw9KBlR32b3yTevKYs77k8EkhjYEk2f bgloRD3ijHTTPpUwFTRmxGHhJTFfLkne++mVzL8s= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:462110944:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29085088c68a3c51 --part1_31a43.6d6005f0.3dba208a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ouch Chris, our hearts go out to you. Chrissi & Randi _www.CozyGirrrl.com_ (http://www.cozygirrrl.com/) ClickBonds 10/$7.50 CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware Chairwomen, Sun-N-Fun Engine Workshop In a message dated 10/24/2012 7:09:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, cbarber@texasattorney.net writes: Ok, to start this rant/post out, as annoyed as I am, I need to be grateful. I flew the other day, Friday, and everything was great. I was just flying over the airport after some modifications to test systems (replaced the front cover o-ring AGAIN...this time with a small cylinder pressed into the hole with the O-ring around it to prevent it from slipping out...along with the silicone ring around the O-ring). I was up about ten minutes and all my gages were well in the green and the engine seemed to be running solidly. I turned on down wind at about 1500 feet, looked down at my gages again and noticed my water and oil temps were both red with coolant temps at 260 degrees. Damn. Called for clearance to land as I reduced power. Pegged my best landing and taxied back to the hangar without incident resulting in injury. I only had time to remove the cowl and note that the cowl was wet but had to leave for the day. I returned the next day and started it up with only a little difficulty and noted the radiator was not getting warm...thus concluded no flow. I ordered a new water pump from Mazdatrix with expedited shipping and installed it. I figured the water pump was likely twenty years old and a new one would hurt. Just as I was buttoning it up and reinstalling the pulley on the new water pump I was moving the stainless water hose out of the way for the wrench and FINALLY saw the REAL problem. The stainless steel water hose had shifted and rubbed up on the e-shaft pulley and gouged two small holes allowing my coolant to blow into the atmosphere of greater Houston. Sigh. Ok, repaired the hose today. Filled the system with new coolant (still has some in the radiator with is under the engine). Ok, for those of you in the know, you know it was hard to start (yes, I have been here before). Finally, with much difficulty and a jump box the engine started...and ran well...but, after taking a few minutes to warm up, it jumped to about 200 degrees. I shut down and as expected by now, steam came out of the tail pipe and I could hear the water boiling in the chambers. Sigh again. I pushed the plane into the hangar and pulled a plug, pulled the prop through and steam shot out of the plug hole. Ok, this sucks, but at least my engine did not seize and it kept running for a normal landing AND, I do know how to rebuild these things (even if apparently do not know how to properly tie back a water hose as not to rub on a fast moving e-shaft pulley). So, the tear down is inevitable. Hopefully the damage is limited to the O-rings.....gee I hope I didn't warp the plates, I just cant afford that right now (so they most certainly are warped....). Just wanted to share. Chris Barber Houston 2.2 hours in Phase One testing --part1_31a43.6d6005f0.3dba208a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ouch Chris, our hearts go out to you.
 
Chrissi &=20 Randi

www.CozyGirrrl.com
ClickB= onds=20 10/$7.50
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Chairwomen, Sun-N-Fun= =20 Engine Workshop
 
In a message dated 10/24/2012 7:09:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 cbarber@texasattorney.net writes:
=

<insert favorite string of expletives here>

 

Ok, to start this rant/post out, as annoyed as I am, I need to be=20 grateful.  I flew the other day, Friday,  and everything was=20 great.  I was just flying over the airport after some modifications = to=20 test systems (replaced the front cover o-ring AGAIN...this time with a=20 small cylinder pressed into the hole with the O-ring aro= und=20 it to prevent it from slipping out...along with the silicone ring around = the=20 O-ring).  I was up about ten minutes and all my gages were well in t= he=20 green and the engine seemed to be running solidly. I turned on down wind = at=20 about 1500 feet, looked down at my gages again and noticed my water and o= il=20 temps were both red with coolant temps at 260 degrees.  Damn. = =20 Called for clearance to land as I reduced power.  Pegged my best lan= ding=20 and taxied back to the hangar without incident resulting in injury.

 

I only had time to remove the cowl and note that the cowl was wet= but=20 had to leave for the day.  I returned the next day and started it up= with=20 only a little difficulty and noted the radiator was not getting=20 warm...thus concluded no flow.  I ordered a new water pump=20 from Mazdatrix with expedited=20 shipping and installed it. I figured the water pump was likely twent= y=20 years old and a new one would hurt. Just as I was buttoning it up an= d=20 reinstalling the pulley on the new water pump I was mo= ving=20 the stainless water hose out of the way for the=20 wrench and FINALLY saw the REAL problem.  The stainless steel w= ater=20 hose had shifted and rubbed up on the e-shaft pulley a= nd=20 gouged two small holes allowing my coolant to blow into the atmosphere=20 of greater Houston.

 

Sigh.  Ok, repaired the hose today.  Filled the system with = new=20 coolant (still has some in the radiator with is under the engine).  = Ok,=20 for those of you in the know, you know it was hard to start (yes, I have = been=20 here before).  Finally, with much difficulty and a jump box=20 the engine started...and ran well...but, after taking = a few=20 minutes to warm up, it jumped to about 200 degrees.  I shut down and= as=20 expected by now, steam came out of the tail pipe and I could hear the wat= er=20 boiling in the chambers.  Sigh again.  I pushed the plane into = the=20 hangar and pulled a plug, pulled the prop through and steam shot out of t= he=20 plug hole.

 

Ok, this sucks, but at least my engine did not seize and=20 it kept running for a normal landing AND, I do know how to rebuild these= =20 things (even if apparently do not know how to properly= tie=20 back a water hose as not to rub on a fast moving e-shaft=20 pulley).  So, the tear down is inevitable. 

 

Hopefully the damage is limited to the O-rings.....gee I hope I didn't= warp=20 the plates, I just cant afford that right now (so they most certainly are= =20 warped....).

 

Just wanted to share.

 

Chris Barber

Houston

2.2 hours in Phase One=20 testing

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