X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.74] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c1) with SMTP id 5697922 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 17:58:13 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.91.74; envelope-from=roundrocktom@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.91.68] by nm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2012 21:57:39 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.41] by tm8.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2012 21:57:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1041.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2012 21:57:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 66055.21705.bm@omp1041.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 79237 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Aug 2012 21:57:38 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1344376658; bh=SuNiETMb9UDlHXuudhhrwb+G1RiNpeXQ7cYa2At4OEU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VPwNoziyYOBKq75bqX5zPWl1PQFHBq1/G63kI08/oB78K3U2bfu4vynDFAonjoflFSY6E8rmNGg8AqBObOc5OX0o4ecGYKoxG2MKpQGQhUnnn+Ucvkw4Uom6fhcwDkItryR/HvjwcWYgrHnh1076yqtLXM9wi0G2EsevDqUXKA0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RdIgTwmWd9AAJG6auDDy9ZTyJjcWyIppHcQAwYpHyeUtk07ZDG5SEeDVRgGzfjh/DruygUNIl494FpbKMIkycF/WWiTDD34JjtuMBwWvldUpna0TXFLyeqjMOhyXyaPP5444sieZEMgZ1OwCcMPoVGUyM1kqrL+CcJT2kzeSWnw=; X-YMail-OSG: cdl5QFcVM1nCTxDRz7NWOihFp9vlBpc8sMDlBa6QRJ_b.mo jUZS3lDVv34oKWkSyKC0tZGFkxb6KWqynbl5fNy3azEPRSWGcG2D9XpY3prt KdMETBJz6ua2_9AUXzeIVPMw6crmY8OUG2pO4wlWgxpkvQALEeWs6LTJO3UO F7etiSigd9ubOT90vg8Zw7QebMqfp9Ri6AEBbzEkstphFfNQLaEBJxK.E6IJ VP3kjNSCi1OHiuXi7Buq1PFn9Hmklzn6qDoWxq6Al0H57a34b0UrPkIIdH4K Hl_rCuQSXnKOiCE.KtssHfR9rQcHJBqaa5URWXupy2ziEa4l8JXdJu3GQRgl z0.LOjLyBYzgqRInUZnsraqm6M6S7U07DjgAvxgsrt93sRHpRTMjtCg7YjqR I79Oki91ITSRZ3r2WDqJCgYnfHWRi9E3OLv7qqhwMbu5J3KUCPe5QtLHXmCe i3nogzqJO7MGLxfzjLiiHGg-- Received: from [72.182.13.58] by web111513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:57:38 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: Message-ID: <1344376658.73598.YahooMailNeo@web111513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:57:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Walter Reply-To: Tom Walter Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Filters. Was: Rotary Forced Landing To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-598724244-1113348876-1344376658=:73598" ---598724244-1113348876-1344376658=:73598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've had similar results.=A0 =0A=0A=0AKeeping the tank full does help pump = life (especially Ford).=0A=0AOther item is is you watch the current wavefor= m on the pumps, you can see a potential issue long before it occurs.=A0 Jus= t a neat=0Aitem that would be nice to explore further as an early failure w= arning.=A0 Honda pump failed, but as long as you thumped the=0Atank with a = rubber mallet it would work again for a week (one position on the rotor was= bad, the thumb just moved it slightly=0Aand the Honda would start again. 1= 80K miles)=0A=0A=0ATom=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From:= Saro Marcarian =0ATo: Rotary motors in aircraft =0ASent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 3:10 PM=0ASubject:= [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Filters. Was: Rotary Forced Landing=0A =0A=0AOne more= thing... =A0This is horrible pseudo-data stated horribly,=A0is strictly an= ecdotal, but take it for what it's worth...=A0=0A=0AI've been around 3 GM F= I cars. =A0The late 80's Grand Am 4 banger ate fuel pumps regularly - I'd g= uess at around 10,000 mile intervals. =A0My late 80's Astro ate one around = 150,000 miles - near Barstow. =A0There's an awesome story there for another= time.... =A0The 2008 Aura we didn't put much mileage on - semi-solid it ar= ound 30,000 miles.=0A=0AIn contrast, I've not had one failure of a FI fuel = pump on my super annoying 98 Toyota Corolla (near 200,000 miles), two 1st g= eneration CRX Si's (both WELL over 100,000 miles), nor my 73,000 mile 2nd g= eneration Honda Fit (a relative youngster - but give it time).=0A=0AThis ha= s been my experience. =A0The only facts I'm stating are my experiences but = you are free to draw your own conclusions. =A0It's not something I'm partic= ularly thrilled about reporting.=0A=0A-Saro ---598724244-1113348876-1344376658=:73598 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've had s= imilar results. 

Keeping the tank full does help pump life (especially Ford).

Other item is is you watch the curr= ent waveform on the pumps, you can see a potential issue long before it occ= urs.  Just a neat
item that would be nice to ex= plore further as an early failure warning.  Honda pump failed, but as = long as you thumped the
tank with a rubber mallet it= would work again for a week (one position on the rotor was bad, the thumb = just moved it slightly
and the Honda would start aga= in. 180K miles)

Tom<= br>

From: Saro Marcarian <sarodude@yahoo.com>= ;
To: Rotary motors in= aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 3:10 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Filt= ers. Was: Rotary Forced Landing

=0A
One more = thing...  This is horrible pseudo-data stated horribly, is= strictly anecdotal, but take it for what it's worth... 

I've been around 3 GM FI cars.  The lat= e 80's Grand Am 4 banger ate fuel pumps regularly - I'd guess at around 10,= 000 mile intervals.  My late 80's Astro ate one around 150,000 miles -= near Barstow.  There's an awesome story there for another time.... &n= bsp;The 2008 Aura we didn't put much mileage on - semi-solid it around 30,0= 00 miles.

In contrast, I= 've not had one failure of a FI fuel pump on my super annoying 98 Toyota Co= rolla (near 200,000 miles), two 1st generation CRX Si's (both WELL over 100= ,000 miles), nor my 73,000 mile 2nd generation Honda Fit (a relative=0A youngster - but give it time).

This has been my experience.  The only facts I'm stating are m= y experiences but you are free to draw your own conclusions.  It's not= something I'm particularly thrilled about reporting.

<= div>-Saro


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