X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c1) with ESMTP id 5691615 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:36:49 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.120; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OtDNOlDt c=1 sm=0 a=g3L/TDsr+eNLfIieSKfGkw==:17 a=AHkS0RJitIMA:10 a=oRWH-0dQY7EA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=N8B9JuSIAAAA:8 a=5Up8faWwAAAA:8 a=arxwEM4EAAAA:8 a=r1ClD_H3AAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=HNHu6aeVtF_1fGGKrZsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=v6MMM96S_sUA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=H300z_XOVIaoUBlHrqoA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=g3L/TDsr+eNLfIieSKfGkw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 174.110.170.10 Received: from [174.110.170.10] ([174.110.170.10:50254] helo=EdPC) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id EB/51-29356-CD1EB105; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 14:36:13 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Fw: [FlyRotary] Rotary Forced Landing Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 10:35:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01CD7163.AB9B8710" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01CD7163.AB9B8710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glad to hear damage was minimal, Dave. I presume the farmer didn't = offer to let you spend the night in his barn {:>). One of the few things I disagree with Bob Nuckolls (Aero Electric = Guru) is the use of CB instead of fuses for system critical subsystems. = In my 2000+ hours of flying in military aircraft, I have on more than = one occasion been able to reset a critical CB when it popped. Sometimes = a temporary condition will occur that causes a excessive current draw - = perhaps rare, but once is enough in my book. But, cutting to the important item, I believe you must be getting close = to my total of 23 minutes of RV glider time {:>). I am prepared to hand = the baton over to you at any time. Stay safe. Ed From: David Leonard=20 Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 9:18 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Fw: [FlyRotary] Rotary Forced Landing Sigh.. Yup, that was me. I have been meaning to fess up. We were at about = 1500 agl when the fuses blew on my fuel pumps. I was in a close = formation of 40 aircraft at the time too. I think I got some bad MOGAS = somewhere in Iowa as I did notice my fuel return flow creep downward but = didn't think it was a big problem. =20 On the incident flight, a one hour formation flight from SQI for a mass = arrival at OSH, the return fuel flow drifted down to zero. I actually = though it was a sensor problem. I didn't have the ability to give it a = lot of attention because we were in a loose formation. Soon after we = pulled it together for a tight formation power switched off. I tried to = find a road, but quickly ran out of options and put it down in a bean = field. With the beans hitting the flaps it brought me to a stop in = about 200ft, just before I would have gone into the full grown corn. As = mentioned, wheel pants broke in half but no other damage besides pulling = bean leaves out of every nook and cranny. The farmers were very nice, = and the stories are true... they have attractive daughters. They were = out there barefoot in their Sunday best enjoying the excitement. Helped = me clean the fuel filter and replace the fuses. Within a couple of = hours I was able to take off from one of their driveways as they all = waived good bye (but strangely, no one took me up on my offer for a = ride). Landed at OSH just before dark to a reserved parking space and a very = warm reception from the formation group and friends. Great support from = everyone all around, though I am trying to avoid the obvious new call = signs they are trying to give me. --=20 David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Dennis Havarlah = wrote: Ed, This is the info. I got from my neighbor Ron Waker - he was in the 40 = plane formation also. I assume RODOC is Dave L. Glad it was only a = couple of wheel pants damaged and the problem was able to be fixed = easily. I wonder what clogged the filter. Dennis H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Walker" To: "Dennis Havarlah" Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [FlyRotary] Rotary Forced Landing Oh ya.. RODOC. We were on our way from SQI to OSH on Sunday .. after about 30 min = of flying from SQI, I hear "Rodoc's Out" over the radio. He was very = calm about it. Flight lead asking him what was wrong etc. "Don't know" = what the answer. We assigned a wingman to stay with him, and a 'spare' = took his place in the formation. We had 4 spares with us. He landed in a bean field. Destroyed his wheel pants, but no other damage. The farmer towed him to his private driveway. They fixed the problem and he launched to OSH. No further problems. The issue ended up being a clogged fuel filter. It was so gummed up = that the circuit breaker kept popping on the fuel pump. Once it was = cleaned and blown out, everything was fine. He did end up flying in the 40 ship on Monday. On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 16:14 -0500, Dennis Havarlah wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Anderson To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:39 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Rotary Forced Landing=20 I was told a Rv-6 Rotary from California made a force landing out = of the "40" Oskhosh RV formation at the airshow. Sort of thought it could have been Dave Lenoard - anybody heard who it was? I = understand he was able to take off from a nearby road - so apparently no = serious damage if any Ed Edward L. Anderson Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC 305 Reefton Road Weddington, NC 28104 http://www.andersonee.com http://www.eicommander.com -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html No virus found in this message. 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Glad to hear damage was minimal, Dave.  I = presume the=20 farmer didn't offer to let you spend the night in his barn = {:>).
 
  One  of the few things I = disagree with=20 Bob Nuckolls (Aero Electric Guru) is the use of CB instead of fuses for = system=20 critical subsystems.  In my 2000+ hours of flying in military = aircraft, I=20 have on more than one occasion been able to reset a critical CB when it=20 popped.  Sometimes a temporary condition will occur that causes a = excessive=20 current draw - perhaps rare, but once is enough in my book.
 
But, cutting to the important item, I believe = you must be=20 getting close to my total of 23 minutes of RV glider time {:>).  = I am=20 prepared to hand the baton over to you at any time.
 
Stay safe.
 
Ed
 

Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 9:18 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Fw: [FlyRotary] Rotary Forced=20 Landing

Sigh..

Yup, that was me.  I have been meaning = to fess=20 up.  We were at about 1500 agl when the fuses blew on my fuel = pumps. =20 I was in a close formation of 40 aircraft at the time too.  I think = I got=20 some bad MOGAS somewhere in Iowa as I did notice my fuel return flow = creep=20 downward but didn't think it was a big problem. 

On the = incident=20 flight, a one hour formation flight from SQI for a mass arrival at OSH, = the=20 return fuel flow drifted down to zero.  I actually though it was a = sensor=20 problem.  I didn't have the ability to give it a lot of attention = because=20 we were in a loose formation.  Soon after we pulled it together for = a tight=20 formation power switched off.  I tried to find a road, but quickly = ran out=20 of options and put it down in a bean field.  With the beans hitting = the=20 flaps it brought me to a stop in about 200ft, just before I would have = gone into=20 the full grown corn.  As mentioned, wheel pants broke in half but = no other=20 damage besides pulling bean leaves out of every nook and cranny.  = The=20 farmers were very nice, and the stories are true... they have attractive = daughters.  They were out there barefoot in their Sunday best = enjoying the=20 excitement.  Helped me clean the fuel filter and replace the = fuses. =20 Within a couple of hours I was able to take off from one of their = driveways as=20 they all waived good bye (but strangely, no one took me up on my offer = for a=20 ride).

Landed at OSH just before dark to a reserved parking space = and a=20 very warm reception from the formation group and friends.  Great = support=20 from everyone all around, though I am trying to avoid the obvious new = call signs=20 they are trying to give me.

--
David Leonard

Turbo = Rotary RV-6=20 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.nethttp://RotaryRoster.net

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Dennis Havarlah = <clouduster@austin.rr.com> wrote:
Ed,

This is the info.  I got from my = neighbor=20 Ron Waker - he was in the 40 plane formation also.  I assume = RODOC is=20 Dave L.  Glad it was only a  couple of wheel pants damaged = and the=20 problem was able to be fixed easily.  I wonder what clogged the=20 filter.

Dennis H.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron = Walker"=20 <n520tx@earthlink.net>
To: "Dennis Havarlah" = <clouduster@austin.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, = August 02,=20 2012 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [FlyRotary] Rotary Forced = Landing


Oh ya.. RODOC.

We were on our way from SQI = to OSH=20 on Sunday .. after about 30 min of
flying from SQI, I hear = "Rodoc's Out"=20 over the radio. He was very calm
about it. Flight lead asking him = what=20 was wrong etc. "Don't know" what
the answer. We assigned a = wingman to=20 stay with him, and a 'spare' took
his place in the formation. We = had 4=20 spares with us.

He landed in a bean field. Destroyed his = wheel pants,=20 but no other
damage. The farmer towed him to his private = driveway. They=20 fixed the
problem and he launched to OSH. No further = problems.

The=20 issue ended up being a clogged fuel filter. It was so gummed up = that
the=20 circuit breaker kept popping on the fuel pump. Once it was = cleaned
and=20 blown out, everything was fine.

He did end up flying in the = 40 ship=20 on Monday.

On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 16:14 -0500, Dennis Havarlah = wrote:

----- Original Message ----- From: Ed=20 Anderson
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Sent: Thursday, = August 02,=20 2012 10:39 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Rotary Forced Landing=20



I was told a Rv-6  Rotary from = California=20 made a force landing out of
the "40" Oskhosh RV formation at = the=20 airshow.  Sort of thought it
could have been Dave Lenoard = -=20 anybody heard who it was?  I understand
he was able to = take off=20 from a nearby road -  so apparently no serious
damage if=20 any

Ed
Edward L. Anderson
Anderson Electronic = Enterprises=20 LLC
305 Reefton Road
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.andersonee.com
http://www.eicommander.com






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