X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-yx0-f180.google.com ([209.85.213.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c1) with ESMTPS id 5689438 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 08:15:31 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.213.180; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by yenq6 with SMTP id q6so7627624yen.25 for ; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 05:14:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LSLahAf8DcrSYETBbflZvfwVQoWA+i9jNpwrezFG/K4=; b=zxITyijgjH/p/AtmUu6FOjFUyeP00cxRYQmZXNqqK6cCfw5/wYbKQ1/AwSzKQn4NdA vs3QLjSEZkn76ymCY/3TJDSUb/5XLLFZadE38kzK7+4DhOYNrYgOXuzUT+R1RmVi77I9 a/k3LZChNHdSXN+Ccf6M49kGUKAzJeNSfICuETOPDufEmYThuWkEltjX06Iucl/St13u 6joYaPIPJEDQn4ZHux9DijVi/uLirhFkWvphBAhJJcCmADUYDkB3bCGG/1YZ3V70GSjx e/Vjuz/ATGznCC+Hei3sepwJErtwgOw0JYjVYCv5T2WOMab4CO+8GgNCFUKGd2l9C+xO dbDw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.75.201 with SMTP id e9mr43335982paw.54.1343909694835; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 05:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.162.5 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 05:14:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 07:14:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Flame detector From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042ef607f88db404c6475b47 --f46d042ef607f88db404c6475b47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Years ago there was an engine fire in a 20B pusher (Velocity??) that was due to a burst oil cooler. He actually blew up two coolers (same make/model), then switched to a certified engine. I don't recall his name, but he was alerted to the fire by ATC. Mark S. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:48 PM, John Slade wrote: > Thanks for caring, Chris. > No. Not me. > I've never heard of the guy - Don Black??? > I wonder what caused the fire. Oil or fuel leak? > Regards > John > > On 8/1/2012 9:29 PM, Chris Barber wrote: > > When I first heard I fears it was John Slade but have been assured it was > not. No less tragic tho. I heard it was his sixth flight from a couple of > sources. Someone posted the registered name but I did not immeadeatly > recognize it. I had one fear it was me. Not me yet yikes. > > > Sent from my iPhone 4 > > On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:49 PM, "Kelly Troyer" wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Mark Steitle wrote: > >> Chris, >> >> Yes, that was me that brought and demonstrated the IR fire detector. I >> had it mounted in a metal project box on the hot side of my engine, but it >> failed shortly thereafter. My guess is the UVtron photo tube failed. >> Replacement sensors were $28/ea at the time, so it has been sitting on the >> shelf waiting for some time to mess with it again. >> >> Since I experimented with the first one, the design has been upgraded >> and the old model is no longer available. You can purchase the whole kit >> for $89 at http://www.acroname.com/robotics/parts/R345-UVTRON-PKG.html . >> Just mount it in a robust box with a hole facing the engine and wire it to >> 12 - 24 volts. You'll want to put an LED on the panel to warn you in case >> of fire. >> >> Mark S. >> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Chris Barber wrote: >> >>> Several years ago at the rotary get together in Pecan Gove south of Ft >>> Worth, Texas a flame detector was demonstrated. Does anyone remember this >>> and have any info on it? The demo was impressive and I would hope/think >>> the technology has improved and is available. >>> >>> With the recent fire in a turbo rosary canard a few days ago it got me >>> comptemplating such matters again. Especially in a pusher. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Chris Barber >>> Houston >>> Velocity 13b Turbo >>> Phase One Testing. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone 4 >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >> >> Chris, > Who had a fire with their Turbo/Rotary Canard ??..............Part of > our little group ??............. > > > -- > Kelly Troyer > > > --f46d042ef607f88db404c6475b47 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Years ago there was an engine fire in a 20B pusher (Velocity??) that was du= e to a burst oil cooler. =A0He actually blew up two coolers (same make/mode= l), then switched to a certified engine. =A0I don't recall his name, bu= t he was alerted to the fire by ATC.

Mark S.

On Wed, Aug 1, 201= 2 at 9:48 PM, John Slade <jslade@canardaviation.com>= wrote:
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Thanks for caring, Chris.
No. Not me.
I've never heard of the guy - Don Black???
I wonder what caused the fire. Oil or fuel leak?
Regards
John

On 8/1/2012 9:29 PM, Chris Barber wrote:
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When I first heard I fears it was John Slade but have been assured it was not. No less tragic tho. I heard it was his sixth flight from a couple of sources. Someone posted the registered name but I did not immeadeatly recognize it. I had one fear it was me. Not me yet yikes.=A0


Sent from my iPhone 4

On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:49 PM, "Kelly Troyer" <keltro@gmail.com> wrote:


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On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris,=A0

Yes, that was me that brought and demonstrated the IR fire detector. =A0I had it mounted in a metal project box on the hot side of my engine, but it failed shortly thereafter. =A0My guess is the UVtron photo tube failed. =A0Replacement sensors were $28/ea at the time, so it has been sitting on the shelf waiting for some time to mess with it again. =A0

Since I experimented with the first one, the design has been upgraded and the old model is no longer available. =A0You can purchase the whole kit for $89 at= =A0 http://www.acroname.com/robotics/parts/R345-UVTRON-PKG.html=A0. =A0Just mount it in a robust box with a hole facing the engine and wire it to 12 - 24 volts. =A0You'll want to put a= n LED on the panel to warn you in case of fire. =A0

Mark S.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Chris Barber <cbarber@texasattorney.net> wrote:
Several years ago at the rotary get together in Pecan Gove south of Ft Worth, Texas a flame detector was demonstrated. Does anyone remember this and have any info on it? =A0The demo was impressive and I would hope/think the technology has improved and is available.

With the recent fire in a turbo rosary canard a few days ago it got me comptemplating such matters again. Especially in a pusher.

Thanks.

Chris Barber
Houston
Velocity 13b Turbo
Phase One Testing.

Sent from my iPhone 4
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Chris,
=A0 Who had a fire with their Turbo/Rotary Canard ??..............Part of our little group ??.............


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