X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.61] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c1) with ESMTP id 5689299 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 07:05:05 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.61; envelope-from=n360tg@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=tc1KbvgXosQvMlNkS8FxAwuK5LbrcRXpnZmiMGTNgZB46jSMaiVu8nyA/1FblCn9; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [198.228.193.118] (helo=[172.20.10.2]) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1SwtCe-0000VA-EY for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 07:04:29 -0400 From: Thomas Giddings Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-37-526039826 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Flame detector Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 07:04:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Message-Id: <9615BF35-6E8F-4FF6-B487-CAAF9D5C8FBE@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-ELNK-Trace: 77b0437ff618fec294f5150ab1c16ac0485087bba56e6009fa355dd111cb012a4e273df14ca8c5ed350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 198.228.193.118 --Apple-Mail-37-526039826 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here is a link to a pic and short = article.http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2708143.shtml?cat=3D500 KIND REGARDS Thomas Giddings n360tg@earthlink.net 727 858 1772 On Aug 1, 2012, at 10:48 PM, John Slade wrote: > Thanks for caring, Chris. > No. Not me. > I've never heard of the guy - Don Black??? > I wonder what caused the fire. Oil or fuel leak? > Regards > John >=20 > On 8/1/2012 9:29 PM, Chris Barber wrote: >> When I first heard I fears it was John Slade but have been assured it = was not. No less tragic tho. I heard it was his sixth flight from a = couple of sources. Someone posted the registered name but I did not = immeadeatly recognize it. I had one fear it was me. Not me yet yikes.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone 4 >>=20 >> On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:49 PM, "Kelly Troyer" wrote: >>=20 >>>=20 >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Mark Steitle = wrote: >>> Chris,=20 >>>=20 >>> Yes, that was me that brought and demonstrated the IR fire detector. = I had it mounted in a metal project box on the hot side of my engine, = but it failed shortly thereafter. My guess is the UVtron photo tube = failed. Replacement sensors were $28/ea at the time, so it has been = sitting on the shelf waiting for some time to mess with it again. =20 >>>=20 >>> Since I experimented with the first one, the design has been = upgraded and the old model is no longer available. You can purchase the = whole kit for $89 at = http://www.acroname.com/robotics/parts/R345-UVTRON-PKG.html . Just = mount it in a robust box with a hole facing the engine and wire it to 12 = - 24 volts. You'll want to put an LED on the panel to warn you in case = of fire. =20 >>>=20 >>> Mark S. >>>=20 >>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Chris Barber = wrote: >>> Several years ago at the rotary get together in Pecan Gove south of = Ft Worth, Texas a flame detector was demonstrated. Does anyone remember = this and have any info on it? The demo was impressive and I would = hope/think the technology has improved and is available. >>>=20 >>> With the recent fire in a turbo rosary canard a few days ago it got = me comptemplating such matters again. Especially in a pusher. >>>=20 >>> Thanks. >>>=20 >>> Chris Barber >>> Houston >>> Velocity 13b Turbo >>> Phase One Testing. >>>=20 >>> Sent from my iPhone 4 >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>=20 >>> Chris, >>> Who had a fire with their Turbo/Rotary Canard ??..............Part = of our little group ??............. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Kelly Troyer >>>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-37-526039826 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Here is a link to a pic and short article.http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2708143.shtml?cat=500
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On Aug 1, 2012, at 10:48 PM, John Slade wrote:

Thanks for caring, Chris.
No. Not me.
I've never heard of the guy - Don Black???
I wonder what caused the fire. Oil or fuel leak?
Regards
John

On 8/1/2012 9:29 PM, Chris Barber wrote:
When I first heard I fears it was John Slade but have been assured it was not. No less tragic tho. I heard it was his sixth flight from a couple of sources. Someone posted the registered name but I did not immeadeatly recognize it. I had one fear it was me. Not me yet yikes. 


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On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:49 PM, "Kelly Troyer" <keltro@gmail.com> wrote:


   

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris, 

Yes, that was me that brought and demonstrated the IR fire detector.  I had it mounted in a metal project box on the hot side of my engine, but it failed shortly thereafter.  My guess is the UVtron photo tube failed.  Replacement sensors were $28/ea at the time, so it has been sitting on the shelf waiting for some time to mess with it again.  

Since I experimented with the first one, the design has been upgraded and the old model is no longer available.  You can purchase the whole kit for $89 at  http://www.acroname.com/robotics/parts/R345-UVTRON-PKG.html .  Just mount it in a robust box with a hole facing the engine and wire it to 12 - 24 volts.  You'll want to put an LED on the panel to warn you in case of fire.  

Mark S.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Chris Barber <cbarber@texasattorney.net> wrote:
Several years ago at the rotary get together in Pecan Gove south of Ft Worth, Texas a flame detector was demonstrated. Does anyone remember this and have any info on it?  The demo was impressive and I would hope/think the technology has improved and is available.

With the recent fire in a turbo rosary canard a few days ago it got me comptemplating such matters again. Especially in a pusher.

Thanks.

Chris Barber
Houston
Velocity 13b Turbo
Phase One Testing.

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