X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from blu0-omc2-s33.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.111.108] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.6) with ESMTP id 5652715 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:47:36 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.111.108; envelope-from=stol83001@live.com Received: from BLU158-W17 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s33.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 09:47:02 -0700 Message-ID: Return-Path: stol83001@live.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5fed95b8-1c46-48a0-859b-2945de2e049f_" X-Originating-IP: [184.167.15.169] From: Ben Haas To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Prop leading edge tape Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:47:02 -0600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jul 2012 16:47:02.0937 (UTC) FILETIME=[75D30090:01CD62A9] --_5fed95b8-1c46-48a0-859b-2945de2e049f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Funny you should mention the tape thing........ =20 I usually replace mine at every conditional inspection... This year ( inspe= ction was three months ago) the tape looked real good so I gambled on it la= sting another year.... A couple of weeks ago I hit some light to moderate r= ain and the foil tape is completely destroyed and I am gonna have to R & R = it this week. I did notice the 'superglue' thing but since my old stuff was= stuck so good I didn't want to change my routine. To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net From: cbarber@texasattorney.net Date: Sun=2C 15 Jul 2012 14:58:45 +0000 Subject: [FlyRotary] Prop leading edge tape I had my forth flight yesterday. I am still just circling the field. Ever= ything was going well. Temps and pressures were all well in the green and I= was "playing' (ok=2C a kinda cavalier term for testing) with prop pitch=2C= trim and power settings when I suddenly felt a distinct=2C slight to moder= ate vibration coming from the rear of the plane. I called the tower and wi= th calm winds was cleared for any runway. I did a tight right turn to 22 a= nd landed. Has it been mentioned that these canards really don't want to l= and...I floated quite a bit down the runway...gotta not try to bleed off sp= eed by slightly lifting the nose.....damned bad Cessna habits =3B-) =20 Anyway=2C I landed and taxied back to the hangar=2C the vibration had stopp= ed. I got out and did my quick inspection and it was immediately obvious t= hat one of the prop leading edge tapes had departed the craft and another w= as starting to tear off. Well=2C at least it seems I quickly discovered th= e problem...kinda what testing is all about. =20 This is an IVO in flight adjustable prop on my Velocity. I have been using= the stainless steel prop tape as provided by IVO. I used the same tape du= ring ground testing=2C but replaced it all just before first flight. Inter= estingly=2C it was pretty difficult to get off...as in it required quite a = bit of force. I did have some issue with the tape un-attaching a bit durin= g ground testing at the edges but had hoped it would be okay once I replace= d it and secured it better. =20 IVO has an online video showing how to install. It is quite straight forwa= rd=2C but I did note they now add some superglue to the edges of the tape. = I do not recall that being a part of it when I got the prop=2C however=2C = I did see the video before the latest tape replacement and I DID add the su= perglue to the leading edge. I also was very thorough when cleaning the pr= op before adding the tape....I think I used Acetone for this step. =20 Anyway=2C I have not had success with the method in the video. I was thinki= ng of masking off the prop except where the tape goes and applying some of = the 3M Super 77 (I think it is the 77...red can) to attach the tape. I had= good success with this when sticking sandpaper to long I-beams for sanding= my wings=2C needing heat to ultimatley removing it...alas=2C sanding block= s and props are two different creatures. =20 So? What say ye? Ideas=2C comments etc. I had one person mention that the= y don't like the tape but understand its use to help protect the prop. Do = we know if it is doing more than protecting from minor fod and=2C I guess r= ain?? =20 Thanks in advance folks. =20 Chris = --_5fed95b8-1c46-48a0-859b-2945de2e049f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Funny you should mention the tape thing........
 =3B
I usually replace mine at every conditional inspection... This year ( inspe= ction was three months ago) the tape looked real good so I gambled on it la= sting another year.... A couple of weeks ago I hit some light to moderate r= ain and the foil tape is completely destroyed and I am gonna have to R &= =3B R it this week. I did notice the 'superglue' thing but since my old stu= ff was stuck so good I didn't want to change my routine.





To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net
From: cbarber@texasattorney.net
Date:= Sun=2C 15 Jul 2012 14:58:45 +0000
Subject: [FlyRotary] Prop leading edg= e tape

I had my forth flight yesterday. =3B I am still just circling the field= . =3B Everything was going well. Temps and pressures were all well in t= he green and I was "playing' (ok=2C a =3Bkinda cavalier term for testing) with prop pitch=2C trim and power settings when I suddenly felt a distinct= =2C slight to moderate vibration coming from the rear of the plane. =3B= I called the tower and with calm winds was cleared for any runway. =3B= I did a tight right turn to 22 and landed. =3B Has it been mentioned t= hat these canards really don't want to land...I floated quite a bit down th= e runway...gotta not try to b= leed off speed by slightly lifting the nose.....damned bad Cessna habits = =3B-)
 =3B
Anyway=2C I landed =3Band =3Btaxied back to the hangar=2C the vibration had stopped. =3B I g= ot out and did my quick inspection and it was =3Bimmediately obvious that one of the prop leading edge tapes had departed= the craft and another was starting to tear off. =3B Well=2C at least i= t seems I quickly discovered the problem...kinda what testing is all about.
 =3B
This is an =3BIVO in flig= ht adjustable prop on my Velocity. =3B I have been using the stainless = steel prop tape as provided by IVO. =3B I used the same tape during ground testing=2C but replaced i= t all just before first flight. =3B Interestingly=2C it was pretty diff= icult to get off...as in it required quite a bit of force. =3B I did ha= ve some issue with the tape =3Bun-attaching a bi= t during ground testing at the edges but had hoped it would be okay once I = replaced it and secured it better.
 =3B
IVO =3Bhas an online vide= o showing how to install. =3B It is quite straight forward=2C but I did= note they now add some superglue to the edges of the tape. =3B I do no= t recall that being a part of it when I got the prop=2C however=2C I did se= e the video before the latest tape replacement and I DID add the superglue = to the leading edge. =3B I also was very =3Bthorough when cleaning the prop before adding the tape....I think I used Ac= etone for this step.
 =3B
Anyway=2C I have not had success with =3Bthe method in the video. I was= thinking of masking off the prop except where the tape goes and applying s= ome of the 3M Super 77 (I think it is the 77...red can) to attach the tape.=  =3B I had good success with this when sticking sandpaper to long I-bea= ms for sanding my wings=2C needing heat to =3Bultimatley removing it...alas=2C sanding blocks and props are two different c= reatures.
 =3B
So? What say ye? =3B Ideas=2C comments etc. =3B I had one person me= ntion that they don't like the tape but understand its use to help protect = the prop. =3B Do we know if it is doing more than protecting from minor=  =3Bfod and=2C I guess ra= in??
 =3B
Thanks in advance folks.
 =3B
Chris
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