X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm26.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.91] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.6) with SMTP id 5645914 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:30:24 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.94.237.91; envelope-from=ceengland@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.94.237.127] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2012 18:29:50 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.54] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2012 18:29:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2012 18:29:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1341944989; bh=0qJdkpmzAqA7k+mrwtmV+qQnRCPct94nko/Sxvi0lss=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=E5O0J0o9df82744cutLFGTQt+4IXJoVTADgeewxNgFWz2JaEvp1CwI7mT/2atQeLupPrWlWCX0r6pbxHMANjwzIosAOOyyEOmW+HDqYPQ/kJVzvRDTVWWqppURHwst/coubTFzr/XovHWmukEKkJq+ychstHSpGeXmzJuf2sb5A= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 914724.54006.bm@smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: YtfkfOgVM1n6wISDQbj5su4nxj4GJ2S8ZPwkGfIQOdHfFmp LiOx8Kyi7Zn_9E6QRpayq6k29RuJYZrXXbGCgQoSeZwerHgz65pIOscCU9If rYR9Qb5zINSH06KLehstJUOSdeNqfFSNAAgEm.3UcSg1xRIs4sCI.JiMBiEQ zvYZOCk_XzvWCq4Viw6_bAffZ_VQn2pQ0Cl9NGVsCSoCgOlamCaKK5hLfvAk kr3cL5cBaXtqq5FjGqAW21fnTAG20j4tbCBBjunqbtb0dlmJuU9ARwUngrQ2 GoUs5v0dmRRFbJrjqTDyKXOHpCM57tjvW14B1gK7Ru9XYG5niLguTazsZCct fGm0UrpaXSWltdwAGgtxiN1ox7CjBkgFXQH1hz_D9193q1BrSDvtHwhmB7dc dcUoe363uZvnB7W7K34UbI6_BDZluxTgh0FH_gJozaWPLKkIKUrYO41cCuKq qQ_R5CIUHz_DYZK2DTW0- X-Yahoo-SMTP: uXJ_6LOswBCr8InijhYErvjWlJuRkoKPGNeiuu7PA.5wcGoy Received: from [192.168.10.30] (ceengland@98.95.124.87 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 2012 11:29:49 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <4FFC749C.4080303@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:29:48 -0500 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: First lift off with single rotor References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000609060508010000060402" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000609060508010000060402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kent Paser? (Speed with Economy) IIRC, he said (it's been repeated by the CAFE test guys in California) that *with proper in-cowl exit air handling*, you can actually make the exit slightly smaller than the inlet. (But not too many have been able to achieve that.) Charlie On 07/10/2012 11:44 AM, Dwayne Parkinson wrote: > There was a guy who optimized his Mustang for performance. He wrote a > book which I don't recall the title of but it was all about the > performance tests and modifications he made and the corresponding > speed gains. Anyhow, he discovered that for his installation the exit > should be 1.1 times the intake. For what it's worth.... > > Dwayne > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Richard Sohn > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:51 AM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] First lift off with single rotor > > Analyzed the dimensions of my cowling, and fount the exit openings > being about 70% of the inlet openings. Big mistake there. This will be > fixed before looking at other options. > Richard Sohn > N2071U > > http://www.fairpoint.net/~res12/home.html > > --------------000609060508010000060402 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kent Paser? (Speed with Economy)

IIRC, he said (it's been repeated by the CAFE test guys in California) that *with proper in-cowl exit air handling*, you can actually make the exit slightly smaller than the inlet. (But not too many have been able to achieve that.)


Charlie


On 07/10/2012 11:44 AM, Dwayne Parkinson wrote:
There was a guy who optimized his Mustang for performance.  He wrote a book which I don't recall the title of but it was all about the performance tests and modifications he made and the corresponding speed gains.  Anyhow, he discovered that for his installation the exit should be 1.1 times the intake.  For what it's worth....

Dwayne


From: Richard Sohn <res12@fairpoint.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:51 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] First lift off with single rotor

Analyzed the dimensions of my cowling, and fount the exit openings being about 70% of the inlet openings. Big mistake there. This will be fixed before looking at other options.
 



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