X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from zixvpm2.fdic.gov ([167.176.16.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with ESMTPS id 5560422 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 25 May 2012 15:01:43 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=167.176.16.41; envelope-from=brogers@fdic.gov Received: from zixvpm2.fdic.gov (ZixVPM [127.0.0.1]) by Outbound.fdic.gov (Proprietary) with ESMTP id 9C3534D048C for ; Fri, 25 May 2012 15:01:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rchmail1.fdic.gov (unknown [10.20.2.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by zixvpm2.fdic.gov (Proprietary) with ESMTP id 0BF724D046F for ; Fri, 25 May 2012 15:01:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.fdic.gov (rchdlp [10.20.2.18]) by rchmail1.fdic.gov (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q4PJ12e4016328 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 25 May 2012 15:01:03 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] High speed taxi part 2 w/nose lift Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 14:01:00 -0500 Message-ID: <1F44A251F397E444B05E240B8688AB790C9E500B@DALEXC100P.PROD.FDIC.GOV> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] High speed taxi part 2 w/nose lift thread-index: Ac06pPU7wab698T0SKOmBwW4BR85CwAAbY6A References: From: "Rogers, Bob J." To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 May 2012 19:01:02.0145 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA7F8B10:01CD3AA8] X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Chris, Congratulations on your progress! Because you have a pusher, there may not be much airflow over the radiator and oil cooler when on the ground. In flight, the cooling may be much more effective. You are almost there. A water spray system for ground operation may be the answer. I had to install a second oil cooler to keep the oil temp in line on my Mustang II, but now, I can keep both water and oil temps below 190 degrees, even when climbing out on a hot day. At altitude and cruise, the temps are about 180 degrees. If I maintained full power for an extended time, the temps would still go above 200, so I just throttle back a bit after I get above pattern altitude. In the Winter, with my cowl flap fully closed, the temps do not go above 170 degrees, even at high power settings. =20 Bob -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Chris Barber Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:33 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] High speed taxi part 2 w/nose lift After getting my DAR inspection and Repairman Certificate a few weeks ago, I did two high speed taxi test with disappointing results. The engine temps on my two rotor 13b rotary were extremely high. Well into the 250 degree range after the long taxi (9000 foot runway) and the quick jaunt down 17R. Obviously unacceptable. I did seem to avoid engine damage apparently by grace and the short duration.=20 Over the last few weeks I have focused on cooling mods. This time I followed the advice from Paul Lamar's book "How to Cool Your Wankle" more honestly and put the oil and coolant heat exchangers under the engine and a bit into the airstream for solid ram air.=20 Today I repeated the long taxi for high speed taxi test 3. Outside temp was 96 degrees. Temps down Hotel stayed around 165 degrees to Alpha. I had to wait for a Grauman to take off. Ran the engine up a bit to verify mixture. By the time I called the tower to take the active coolant temps had gotten to about 185.=20 I took a breath and smoothly added power and started my run down the center line. Speed came in as I brought power to just over 5000 RPM. I reached 60 knots really quickly. (posted rotation speed range). I retarded the power a bit to maintain 60 ish knots took a mental breath....and raised the nose. The nose actually lifted Holy crap....that is almost flight. I brought back power and the nose settled (uh, by settled, I mean bounced ;-)).=20 Ok. While really cool to me, the coolest part was when I noticed that when I checked the coolant temp just as the nose was down, the coolant temp had DROPPED to the high 170's. A drop. Imagine that!!! I pulled off at Charlie and taxied back to my hangar with the temps around. 185. They just hit 190 before I shut down. Again, it is in the mid 90's today.=20 I don't know about y'all, but this has been a pretty good day off so far.=20 Thanks for your support.=20 Chris Barber Houston KEFD Velocity SE/FG Rotary 13b turbo w/Mistral Intake RWS PSRU/EC2/EM2 Dynon SkyView SV-7 Sent from my iPhone 4 -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html