X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.24] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTP id 5484074 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:39:44 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.24; envelope-from=randolph7714@comcast.net Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ymQD1i0051u4NiLA2mf8zQ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 22:39:08 +0000 Received: from RandySmithPC ([98.198.179.1]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ymf61i00k02CD2S8hmf70z; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 22:39:07 +0000 From: "Randolph" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Just basic questions here Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:39:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01CD1BF7.D0533B00" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 Thread-Index: Ac0b9D4DjATRwLdpTN21LbnHDL6/ywALR/ew Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CD1BF7.D0533B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well Tracy there are 3, the manual showing the one furtherest from the AQM cover is Pitot and the other 2 closer to the cover itself are Static, right? Randy _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 12:00 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Just basic questions here There should be no leak down in the pitot plumbing. You may have reversed the ports on the TAS sensor. There are two on it, one for static and one for pitot. The installation guide calls out 1/8" line for the sensors if using silicone tubing. If the 5/32 line is leaking, try a small tie wrap the the sensors. Tracy Sent from my iPad On Apr 15, 2012, at 7:36 PM, "Randolph" wrote: I'm finishing up ground runs on my 1988 13B using the EM3 EC3 before closing everything up to install the biplane wings.. Wanted to be sure the 5/32" ID silicon tube was connected to the right place in the AQM. I configured a manometer to the steam gages in the front and rear cockpits an observed about 3.3 inches of water gives a reading of 80 mph. So far so good. Then I tried to check what this pressure would do with the aqm (EM3) and found no change in the near zero true air speed EM3 reading. In fact there seems to be a bleed-off of pressure so I cannot hold a steady 3.3" pressure on the EM3 to measure anything. Did I spend $ 28 to get this silicon tube for naught or am I confused about the one pitot and two static ports on this AQM? And then again..the water temp was about 165 without the cowl, but on the latest ground run the temp ran 188 degrees and climbing..gurss ya have to fly in to know...problem is the three pass19" X 20" X 2" radiator is some four inches below the steam chamber and water fill cap so at 17 inches of pressure indicated (EM3) coolent spewes out liberally from the radiator cap.. Can I add rubber washers to this cap or should I toss it away and weld up that racing radiator cap location? The water after radiator temp registered 30 degrees below the engine out water.. is this enough? Wishing you all had problems so basic as mine! Randy __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7056 (20120415) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7059 (20120416) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CD1BF7.D0533B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well Tracy there are 3, the manual showing the one = furtherest=20 from the AQM cover is Pitot and the other 2 closer to the cover itself = are=20 Static, right?
Randy

From: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Tracy
Sent:=20 Monday, April 16, 2012 12:00 PM
To: Rotary motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Just basic questions=20 here

There should be no leak down in the pitot plumbing.   You may = have=20 reversed the ports on the TAS sensor.   There are two on it, one = for static=20 and one for pitot.  The installation guide calls out 1/8" line for = the=20 sensors if using silicone tubing.   If the 5/32 line is leaking, = try a=20 small tie wrap the the sensors.

Tracy

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 15, 2012, at 7:36 PM, "Randolph" <randolph7714@comcast.net>= =20 wrote:

I'm = finishing up=20 ground runs on my 1988 13B using the EM3 EC3 before closing everything = up to=20 install the biplane wings..
Wanted to be sure=20 the 5/32" ID silicon tube was connected to the right place in the = AQM.  I=20 configured a manometer to the steam gages in the front and rear=20 cockpits
an = observed about=20 3.3 inches of water gives a reading of 80 mph.  So far so = good. =20 Then I tried to check what this pressure would do with the aqm (EM3) = and found=20 no change in
the = near zero true=20 air speed EM3 reading.  In fact there seems to be a bleed-off of=20 pressure so I cannot hold a steady 3.3" pressure on the EM3 to = measure=20 anything.  Did I spend $ 28 to get this silicon tube for naught = or am I=20 confused about the one pitot and two static ports on this=20 AQM?
 
And = then=20 again..the water temp was about 165 without the cowl, but on the = latest=20 ground  run the temp ran 188 degrees and climbing..gurss ya have = to fly=20 in to know...problem is the three pass19" X 20" X 2" radiator is some = four=20 inches below the steam chamber and water fill cap so at 17 inches of = pressure=20 indicated (EM3) coolent spewes out liberally from the radiator = cap..  Can=20 I add rubber washers to this cap or should I toss it away  and = weld up=20 that racing radiator cap location?  The water after radiator temp = registered 30 degrees below the engine out water.. is this=20 enough?
 
Wishing you all=20 had problems so basic as mine!
 
Randy


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