X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.169.203] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTP id 5123535 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:57:13 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.169.203; envelope-from=Bktrub@aol.com Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p8E0uPFg004572 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:56:25 -0400 Received: from Bktrub@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id q.10fd.66f0131 (55719) for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-dd03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-dd03.mx.aol.com [205.188.84.131]) by cia-md02.mx.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMD022-d4054e6ffbb127b; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:56:20 -0400 Received: from webmail-m025 (webmail-m025.sim.aol.com [64.12.183.108]) by smtprly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDD031-d4054e6ffbb127b; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:56:17 -0400 References: To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 problems Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:56:17 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 50.46.146.205 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: bktrub@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CE40903EA298B2_27CC_83482_webmail-m025.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34078-STANDARD Received: from 50.46.146.205 by webmail-m025.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.108) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:56:17 -0400 Message-Id: <8CE40903E99132E-27CC-37252@webmail-m025.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Bktrub@aol.com ----------MB_8CE40903EA298B2_27CC_83482_webmail-m025.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I had some problems with the EM2 giving wild readings in the 5 digit range= for temps. Turns out I had a bad ground, the ring terminal was on but not= tight.=20 BrianTrubee -----Original Message----- From: Tom Giddings To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:32 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 problems Yes we have everything you will need, but don,t give up just yet. You will= find the problem. Kind Regards Tom Giddings VP Avionics Sales Midwest Avionics 200 Hardy Roberts Drive Paducah, KY 42086-0219 877-904-9966 tom@midwestavionics.net Online Store=20 www.midwest-avionics.com On Sep 13, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Chris Barber wrot= e: Tom, =20 I will likely call in the next couple of days. I already see your web sit= e prices are a bit lower than ordering from Dynon anything else is gravy.= Thanks for the offer. =20 =20 Do you have the sensors too? I saw the network cables etc, but missed the= sensors. =20 I still hope to get the EM2 issue licked.....it has got me frustrated at= the moment but could still be a problem on the Skyview. =20 Thanks again for the offer. =20 Chris Barber From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of= Thomas Giddings [tom@midwestaviation.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:30 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 problems OH Ya Do not order off the WEB Site. That goes for all you guys..Call me= direct at 877 904 9966.=20 Tom Giddings VP Avionics Sales MIDWEST AVIONICS 200 Hardy Roberts Dr PO Box 219 West Paducah,KY 42086 877.904.9966 Toll Free 727.858.1772 Mobile 270.744.3466 Fax tom@midwestaviation.net Online Store www.midwest-avionics.com =20 On Sep 13, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Thomas Giddings wrote: Chris: FYI...I give discounts to Rotary folks. We sell a lot of Dynon..= I am going to use a Dynon myself. Check the Web Site below if you like.= Not looking for business just trying to save you some money if I can. Tom Giddings VP Avionics Sales MIDWEST AVIONICS 200 Hardy Roberts Dr PO Box 219 West Paducah,KY 42086 877.904.9966 Toll Free 727.858.1772 Mobile 270.744.3466 Fax tom@midwestaviation.net Online Store www.midwest-avionics.com =20 On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Chris Barber wrote: I have posted in the past with problems regarding my EM2 giving me wildly= inconsistent reading with my EGT's. The reading flash to randomly increas= ing numbers up to readings of 9000 degrees. I replaced the EGTsensors and= all wires/thermal couplers to the EGT to no avail. The consensus has bee= n "noise" especially since the EGT are so low voltage. I have now run the= wirers along the outside to the plane away from all other wires and still= no joy. =20 NOW, I am having strange readings with the coolant temperature. I have no= t changed anything, no movement of wires etc...well, at first, I have now= replaced the sender with no change. What seems to be happening is that= when the engine is not running, the coolant temperature seems about right= (which is pretty close to the oil temp....my oil temps dropped quite a bi= t after finally getting my oil pressure up with a new front cover O-ring).= HOWEVER, when I start up the engine the coolant temperature reading shoo= ts up anywhere from 50 to 100 degrees higher than before I start and/or im= mediately after I shut down (thus not enough time to cool). It is also ab= out the same amount higher than the oil reading. I have removed the wire= from the bundled harness to minimize interference. =20 I am suddenly also having an issue with the coolant pressure reading flash= ing to "N" intermittingly (I am guessing similiar to the NOP on the tach).= I too have checked the wires. Nothing has been changed, the coolant tem= p and pressure just started happening...the EGT has always been a problem.= Again, I have now replaced all the sening units and wires. =20 Ok, while the EGT may be somewhat secondary in use, the coolant temperatur= e is not. I have tried various wires. Moved wires and replaced all senso= rs and re-did D-sub pins.=20 =20 Thoughts? =20 I am about two minutes away from ordering the Dynon engine monitor( which= I intend to buy eventually anyway), however, I am not thrilled at the id= ea of throwing money at what may be a simple fix...and may still have prob= lems with even with the new unit. =20 Thanks. =20 Chris ----------MB_8CE40903EA298B2_27CC_83482_webmail-m025.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
I had some problems with the EM2 giving wild readings in the 5 digit= range for temps. Turns out I had a bad ground, the ring terminal was on= but not tight.
 
BrianTrubee



-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Giddings <tom@midwestaviation.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tue, Sep 13, 2011 5:32 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 problems

Yes we have everything you will need, but don,t give up just yet. You= will find the problem.

Kind Regards
Tom Giddings
VP Avionics Sales
Midwest Avionics
200 Hardy Roberts Drive
Paducah, KY 42086-0219
877-904-9966
Online Store 


On Sep 13, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Chris Barber <cbarber@texasattorney.net> wrote:

Tom,
 
I will likely call in the next couple of days.  I al= ready see your web site prices are a bit lower than ordering from Dyn= on anything else is gravy.  Thanks for the offer= . 
 
Do you have the sensors too?  I saw the network cables etc, but= missed the sensors.
 
I still hope to get the EM2 issue licked.....it ha= s got me frustrated at the moment but could still be a problem on the Skyv= iew.
 
Thanks again for the offer.
 
Chris Barber

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf= of Thomas Giddings [tom@midwes= taviation.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:30 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 problems

OH Ya Do not order off the WEB Site.  That goes for all you guys= ..Call me direct at 877 904 9966. 

Tom Giddings
VP Avionics Sales
MIDWEST AVIONICS
200 Hardy Roberts Dr
PO Box 219
West Paducah,KY 42086
877.904.9966 Toll Free
727.858.1772 Mobile
270.744.3466 Fax
tom@midwestaviation.net
Online Store
www.midwest-avionics.com



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On Sep 13, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Thomas Giddings wrote:

Chris:  FYI...I give discounts= to Rotary folks. We sell a lot of Dynon.. I am going to use a Dynon mysel= f. Check the Web Site below if you like. Not looking for business just try= ing to save you some money if I can.

Tom Giddings
VP Avionics Sales
MIDWEST AVIONICS
200 Hardy Roberts Dr
PO Box 219
West Paducah,KY 42086
877.904.9966 Toll Free
727.858.1772 Mobile
270.744.3466 Fax
tom@midwestaviation.net
Online Store
www.midwest-avionics.com



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On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Chris Barber wrote:

I have posted in the pa= st with problems regarding my EM2 giving me wildly inconsistent reading with my EGT's= . The reading flash to randomly increasing numbers= up to readings of 9000 degrees.  I replaced the EGTsensors and all wires/thermal couplers to the EGT to no avail.  The= consensus has been "noise" especially since the EGT=  are so low voltage.&n= bsp; I have now run the wirers along the outside to the plane away from al= l other wires and still no joy.
 
NOW, I am having strang= e readings with the coolant temperature.  I have not changed any= thing, no movement of wires etc...well, at first, I have now replaced the= sender with no change.  What seems to be happening is that when the= engine is not running, the coolant temperature seems about right (which= is pretty close to the oil temp....my oil temps dropped quite a bit&= nbsp;after finally getting my oil pressure up with a new front cover O-ring). = HOWEVER, when I start up the engine the coolant temperature reading shoot= s up anywhere from 50 to 100 degrees higher than before I start and/o= r immediately = after I shut down (thus not enough time to cool).  It is also about= the same amount higher than the oil reading.  I have= removed the wire from the bundled harness to minimize interference= .
 
I am suddenly also havi= ng an issue with the coolant pressure reading flashing to "N" intermitting= ly (I am guessing similiar=  to the NOP&nb= sp;on the tach).  I too have checked the= wires.  Nothing has been changed, the coolant temp and pressure just= started happening...the EGT has always been a problem.  Again, I have now replaced= all the sening units and wires.
 
Ok, while the EGT<= A> may= be somewhat secondary in use, the coolant temperature is not.  I hav= e tried various wires.  Moved wires and replaced all sensors and re-d= id D-sub pins. 
 
Thoughts?
 
I am about two minutes= away from ordering the Dynon engine monitor( which I intend to buy eventu= ally anyway), however,  I am not thrilled at the idea of throwin= g money at what may be a simple fix...and may still have problems with eve= n with the new unit.
 
Thanks.
 
Chris


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