X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from outbound-b1.mx-route.com ([208.123.79.45] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTP id 5123523 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:32:56 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=208.123.79.45; envelope-from=tom@midwestaviation.net Received: from fl-184-0-224-156.dhcp.centurylinkservices.net (HELO [192.168.1.71]) ([184.0.224.156]) by smtp.mxtoolbox.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 13 Sep 2011 19:32:20 -0500 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 problems References: From: Tom Giddings Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-24-498205489 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8F190) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <11C3885A-FCC1-43B4-8B61-D86CDDE5D138@midwestaviation.net> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:32:15 -0400 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8F190) --Apple-Mail-24-498205489 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes we have everything you will need, but don,t give up just yet. You will f= ind the problem. Kind Regards Tom Giddings VP Avionics Sales Midwest Avionics 200 Hardy Roberts Drive Paducah, KY 42086-0219 877-904-9966 tom@midwestavionics.net Online Store=20 www.midwest-avionics.com On Sep 13, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Chris Barber wrote:= > Tom, >=20 > =20 >=20 > I will likely call in the next couple of days. I already see your web sit= e prices are a bit lower than ordering from Dynon anything else is gravy. T= hanks for the offer.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > Do you have the sensors too? I saw the network cables etc, but missed the= sensors. >=20 > =20 >=20 > I still hope to get the EM2 issue licked.....it has got me frustrated at t= he moment but could still be a problem on the Skyview. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Thanks again for the offer. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Chris Barber >=20 > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of= Thomas Giddings [tom@midwestaviation.net] > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:30 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 problems >=20 > OH Ya Do not order off the WEB Site. That goes for all you guys..Call me d= irect at 877 904 9966.=20 >=20 > Tom Giddings > VP Avionics Sales > MIDWEST AVIONICS > 200 Hardy Roberts Dr > PO Box 219 > West Paducah,KY 42086 > 877.904.9966 Toll Free > 727.858.1772 Mobile > 270.744.3466 Fax > tom@midwestaviation.net > Online Store > www.midwest-avionics.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > On Sep 13, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Thomas Giddings wrote: >=20 >> Chris: FYI...I give discounts to Rotary folks. We sell a lot of Dynon.. I= am going to use a Dynon myself. Check the Web Site below if you like. Not l= ooking for business just trying to save you some money if I can. >>=20 >> Tom Giddings >> VP Avionics Sales >> MIDWEST AVIONICS >> 200 Hardy Roberts Dr >> PO Box 219 >> West Paducah,KY 42086 >> 877.904.9966 Toll Free >> 727.858.1772 Mobile >> 270.744.3466 Fax >> tom@midwestaviation.net >> Online Store >> www.midwest-avionics.com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> >>=20 >> On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Chris Barber wrote: >>=20 >>> I have posted in the past with problems regarding my EM2 giving me wildl= y inconsistent reading with my EGT's. The reading flash to randomly increasi= ng numbers up to readings of 9000 degrees. I replaced the EGTsensors and al= l wires/thermal couplers to the EGT to no avail. The consensus has been "no= ise" especially since the EGT are so low voltage. I have now run the wirers= along the outside to the plane away from all other wires and still no joy. >>> =20 >>> NOW, I am having strange readings with the coolant temperature. I have n= ot changed anything, no movement of wires etc...well, at first, I have now r= eplaced the sender with no change. What seems to be happening is that when t= he engine is not running, the coolant temperature seems about right (which i= s pretty close to the oil temp....my oil temps dropped quite a bit after fin= ally getting my oil pressure up with a new front cover O-ring). HOWEVER, wh= en I start up the engine the coolant temperature reading shoots up anywhere f= rom 50 to 100 degrees higher than before I start and/or immediately after I s= hut down (thus not enough time to cool). It is also about the same amount h= igher than the oil reading. I have removed the wire from the bundled harnes= s to minimize interference. >>> =20 >>> I am suddenly also having an issue with the coolant pressure reading fla= shing to "N" intermittingly (I am guessing similiar to the NOP on the tach).= I too have checked the wires. Nothing has been changed, the coolant temp a= nd pressure just started happening...the EGT has always been a problem. Aga= in, I have now replaced all the sening units and wires. >>> =20 >>> Ok, while the EGT may be somewhat secondary in use, the coolant temperat= ure is not. I have tried various wires. Moved wires and replaced all senso= rs and re-did D-sub pins.=20 >>> =20 >>> Thoughts? >>> =20 >>> I am about two minutes away from ordering the Dynon engine monitor( whic= h I intend to buy eventually anyway), however, I am not thrilled at the ide= a of throwing money at what may be a simple fix...and may still have problem= s with even with the new unit. >>> =20 >>> Thanks. >>> =20 >>> Chris >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-24-498205489 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Yes we have everything you will need, but don,t give up just yet. You will find the problem.

Kind Regards
Tom Giddings
VP Avionics Sales
Midwest Avionics
200 Hardy Roberts Drive
Paducah, KY 42086-0219
877-904-9966
Online Store 


On Sep 13, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Chris Barber <cbarber@texasattorney.net> wrote:

Tom,

 

I will likely call in the next couple of days.  I already see your web site prices are a bit lower than ordering from Dynon anything else is gravy.  Thanks for the offer. 

 

Do you have the sensors too?  I saw the network cables etc, but missed the sensors.

 

I still hope to get the EM2 issue licked.....it has got me frustrated at the moment but could still be a problem on the Skyview.

 

Thanks again for the offer.

 

Chris Barber


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of Thomas Giddings [tom@midwestaviation.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:30 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 problems

OH Ya Do not order off the WEB Site.  That goes for all you guys..Call me direct at 877 904 9966. 

Tom Giddings
VP Avionics Sales
MIDWEST AVIONICS
200 Hardy Roberts Dr
PO Box 219
West Paducah,KY 42086
877.904.9966 Toll Free
727.858.1772 Mobile
270.744.3466 Fax
tom@midwestaviation.net
Online Store
www.midwest-avionics.com



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On Sep 13, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Thomas Giddings wrote:

Chris:  FYI...I give discounts to Rotary folks. We sell a lot of Dynon.. I am going to use a Dynon myself. Check the Web Site below if you like. Not looking for business just trying to save you some money if I can.

Tom Giddings
VP Avionics Sales
MIDWEST AVIONICS
200 Hardy Roberts Dr
PO Box 219
West Paducah,KY 42086
877.904.9966 Toll Free
727.858.1772 Mobile
270.744.3466 Fax
tom@midwestaviation.net
Online Store
www.midwest-avionics.com



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On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Chris Barber wrote:

I have posted in the past with problems regarding my EM2 giving me wildly inconsistent reading with my EGT's. The reading flash to randomly increasing numbers up to readings of 9000 degrees.  I replaced the EGTsensors and all wires/thermal couplers to the EGT to no avail.  The consensus has been "noise" especially since the EGT are so low voltage.  I have now run the wirers along the outside to the plane away from all other wires and still no joy.

 

NOW, I am having strange readings with the coolant temperature.  I have not changed anything, no movement of wires etc...well, at first, I have now replaced the sender with no change.  What seems to be happening is that when the engine is not running, the coolant temperature seems about right (which is pretty close to the oil temp....my oil temps dropped quite a bit after finally getting my oil pressure up with a new front cover O-ring).  HOWEVER, when I start up the engine the coolant temperature reading shoots up anywhere from 50 to 100 degrees higher than before I start and/or immediately after I shut down (thus not enough time to cool).  It is also about the same amount higher than the oil reading.  I have removed the wire from the bundled harness to minimize interference.

 

I am suddenly also having an issue with the coolant pressure reading flashing to "N" intermittingly (I am guessing similiar to the NOP on the tach).  I too have checked the wires.  Nothing has been changed, the coolant temp and pressure just started happening...the EGT has always been a problem.  Again, I have now replaced all the sening units and wires.

 

Ok, while the EGT may be somewhat secondary in use, the coolant temperature is not.  I have tried various wires.  Moved wires and replaced all sensors and re-did D-sub pins. 

 

Thoughts?

 

I am about two minutes away from ordering the Dynon engine monitor( which I intend to buy eventually anyway), however,  I am not thrilled at the idea of throwing money at what may be a simple fix...and may still have problems with even with the new unit.

 

Thanks.

 

Chris


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