X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm19.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.146] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with SMTP id 5113445 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:23:53 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.146; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from [98.139.44.104] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2011 13:23:18 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.77] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2011 13:23:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2011 13:23:18 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 267124.98640.bm@omp1014.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 54447 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2011 13:23:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1315142598; bh=uIExw6545SR9kSUW7bEOAArUg5vEcwXsduKP2pwjbtQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LETpNHrQo1cwGtfKGjTJzzBlQ8EpTM6M0rcqEc4OSaf5tefU/gHR6TQcqpJ76VyI5H6Q2NFd1LQUOxlKoQh4QAErRGS4SszZapcZw9ny1VxBCgzIf3y+r/2HqALDNjhBn1K3cvF2M0ZA17e/mrlXdt8keDaVnt6/ZkJMpaO0lYU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YdX0DK4tvTs50+mSx0+/H9RUSwB/3rLdoauMSWQ9PQmWau3S+0tNIFjKQifWM0NvW+zGrMEEKF7ANKEq/QbOCzQ0tFuCyZlhtzX9T+DF1sImuZcgGi6DnelLurhZ1meouV+QalswrF4SPekajgb9SodHeUYa9c6YvFz4aHQ8ix0=; X-YMail-OSG: 4s_R6UQVM1li_wJteV0oDvE.MZDwx1Tx1STqP6MBOrmeq9X jKqX.cpmJIL6fVMri.j7qK_5JXs7anwEZ6l6Tq3oKdFpNeNmFH.32x2Ndo29 QOnwE5g9BZPzymItQ4Nr1ULvmzYllySm1bz.0QiabVWNtZ940DzoeKXwr6jR 8VPOeESgwB_AkSwsVOuhjB3mNrWhjE7mUCnsynqfLkU.v.VzvB6uzPegs.Y4 wua4K8NFlp.BLeca9ibjBqV0gsLIxibYFK1M78CA2xXIowxl5W_umsB3kvqp Tvu9lF2xZPvwUawheTQ8knyKNWO9k8DiW.6BZcHORloTC14WN25kpYxv5T0O 0fXVVyLjab4PlqGK_zgqLKlww0Wjg_2mipweYJ42qc_Z5nSx7jpIbDCTsXyP UkR1rTQVOLMo- Received: from [208.114.41.2] by web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 06:23:17 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.113.315625 References: Message-ID: <1315142597.53438.YahooMailNeo@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 06:23:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly Troyer Reply-To: Kelly Troyer Subject: Re: 20B Tuning To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1870816904-1315142597=:53438" --0-1870816904-1315142597=:53438 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tim,=0A=A0=A0 What is your=A0prop diameter ?.............=0A=0AKelly Troyer= =0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM= 2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A=0AFrom= : coastiefamily4 =0ATo: Rotary motors in aircraft= =0ASent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 10:50 PM= =0ASubject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B Tuning=0A=0A=0ATip speed=0A=0A=0AOn Sat, Se= p 3, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote:=0A=0AIs the rpm = limit because of diameter (tip speed) or a structural blade limitation ?...= ...........=0A>=0A>=0A>Kelly Troyer=0A>"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A>"13= B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A>"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A>"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold= =0A>"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A>=0A>=0A>From: coastiefamily4 =0A>To: Rotary motors in aircraft =0A>Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 6:06 PM=0A>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:= 20B Tuning=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>The prop is adjustable, it is hydraulically cont= rolled.=A0 I current have it set to the fine pitch setting.=0A>=0A>=0A>On S= at, Sep 3, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bobby J. Hughes wrote:=0A>= =0A>If it's adjustable you may need more pitch. A 2150 rpm limit seem very = low. =A0 =A0Bobby=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Sent from my iPad=0A>>=0A>>On Sep 3, 2011, = at 5:57 PM, "coastiefamily4" wrote:=0A>>=0A>>=0A= >>This is not full throttle, I have to stop at 6000 RPMs do to the 2150 RPM= limit on my prop. I am using a VARI PROP, it is great so far.=A0=A0 I have= plenty of throttle, just prop limited. =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>On Sat, Sep 3, 20= 11 at 3:44 PM, William Wilson wrote:=0A>>>=0A>>>23.= 3 is just about exactly what would be expected.=0A>>>>=0A>>>>Perhaps the th= rottle is not opening all the way?=A0 You would have to have a pretty convo= luted intake to lose 3" of pressure in it. =0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>>On S= at, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:40 PM, wrote:=0A>>>>=0A>>>>At what de= nsity altitude was that measured? Maybe your MAP needs to be calibrated.=0A= >>>>>=0A>>>>>Brian Trubee=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>--= ---Original Message-----=0A>>>>>From: coastiefamily4 =0A>>>>>To: Rotary motors in aircraft =0A>= >>>>Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 1:50 pm=0A>>>>>Subject: [FlyRotary] 20B Tuning= =0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>My static MAP before starting the engine was 23.3 = =0A>>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>=0A>=0A>=0A> --0-1870816904-1315142597=:53438 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tim,
   What is= your prop diameter ?.............
 
Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil = Manifold
"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

From:= coastiefamily4 <coastiefamily4@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyro= tary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 10:50 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B Tuning

Tip speed

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Kelly = Troyer <keltro@att.net> wrote:
Is the rpm limit because of diameter (tip speed) or a structural= blade limitation ?..............
 
Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil = Manifold
"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

From: coastiefamily4 <coastiefamily4@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net&= gt;
Sent: Saturday= , September 3, 2011 6:06 PM
Subject= : [FlyRotary] Re: 20B Tuning

The prop is adjustable, it is hydraulically controlled.  I curren= t have it set to the fine pitch setting.

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bobby J. Hughes <bhughes@qnsi.net> wrote:
If it's adjustable you may need more pitch. A 2150 rpm limit seem very= low.    Bobby


Sent from my iPad

On Sep 3, 2011, at 5:57 PM, "coastiefamily4" <coastiefamily4@gmail.com> wrote:

<= /DIV>
This is not full throttle, I have to stop at 6000 RPMs do to the 2150 = RPM limit on my prop. I am using a VARI PROP, it is great so far. &nbs= p; I have plenty of throttle, just prop limited.

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:44 PM, William Wilson <fluffysheap@gmail.com> wrote:
23.3 is just about exactly what would be expected.
=
Perhaps the throttle is not opening all the way?  You would have t= o have a pretty convoluted intake to lose 3" of pressure in it.=20


On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:40 PM, <bktrub@aol.com> wrote:
At what density altitude was that measured? Maybe your MAP needs to be= calibrated.
 
Brian Trubee



-----Original Message-----
From: coastiefamily4 <co= astiefamily4@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sat, Sep= 3, 2011 1:50 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] 20B Tuning

My static MAP before starting the engine was 23.3








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