X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-vw0-f52.google.com ([209.85.212.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTPS id 5083587 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 22:05:28 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.212.52; envelope-from=crobinson@medialantern.com Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16so1714298vws.25 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.28.40 with SMTP id y8mr2962276vdg.136.1312596292841; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [10.10.50.82] (L3-NM-254.wwe.com [63.208.148.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dc9sm1011506vcb.45.2011.08.05.19.04.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E3CA143.2050909@medialantern.com> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 22:04:51 -0400 From: Chad Robinson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.2; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Fwd: Flex plate cracks References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 8/5/2011 9:08 PM, Charlie England wrote: > I was moving stuff around in the hangar today& picked up my salvage > yard flex > plate. Found two 3/4" cracks: down from 9 o'clock& up from 3 o'clock > holes in > the pic. Plate has never flown AFAIK. The timing of this whole conversation is eerie. Literally 24 hours before it was first posted I had finally installed my starter and turned my engine over for the first time. When I did, I noticed visible runout in my flex plate ring gear (the whole plate had runout - I just noticed it because I was making sure my starter alignment was good). I initially contacted Tracy to see if it was acceptable, but the number he pulled from thin air for what might be acceptable was a small fraction of what I had - mine was like 3/16". It was very noticeable. SO, when the whole hoopla erupted on the list that sealed it for me and I decided to tear it out and put a new one in. I lucked across an eBay seller with THREE flex plates, and at only $40 each I just said "f--- it" and bought them all. I'm glad I did. One of the three had runout of its own - not as much as my first plate, but definitely not a choice part. I ended up installing the best of the three. Close examination of these three seems to suggest that some stress during use caused the warp (heat?). They don't appear to be manufacturing tolerances. I understand Lynn's point about that and don't disagree, it's just that all of mine have visible indications of wear and tear to varying degrees. If somebody had a transmission seize or hydro-locked their engine, this part is right in the chain to take some abuse there... It might be worth establishing some guidelines for what's acceptable in this part. Regards, Chad