X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm29-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.192] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with SMTP id 5083416 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:17:43 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.192; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from [98.139.44.101] by nm29.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2011 23:17:06 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.87] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2011 23:17:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1024.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2011 23:17:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 424001.56061.bm@omp1024.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 69197 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Aug 2011 23:17:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1312586226; bh=VFsr4ef1Ej+wGGYnrXl8JrgB7v5icxoZTVBGeXOxCHY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IZjM5cJqZ2tlCC7a2RhE0+6AjNsPcw9f/z/Es+xbT7lHx3XMsN42D66IKpzjn/7OP3bhww7FwLkoeSHfkSrmZ4D0LVNOzgOh8XwMFi/S40zNqeZKoAOP8ikuOJtewJegUVKJyZHY3qxJPZea//WuX8NKyPql7EB2Ozqb6c5isvk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OpHBC8hW3glitJuXrfx8RTHKWJDRvTCGLmPOv/iyG6kF7wq2oU//CiVObe+86kzj7fS+EXkyDottze2EmmhQY4nAgAs6PVFE/GwFTf+aQafqltzttFQnxxu5HknrpyaYLBJB+Pj366UrbbXMTF9Nh361nzJRs1KxktZJ6OJ3fXw=; X-YMail-OSG: izHf6_UVM1lPRlITsR4vvm9wKhZv15kaeDOxLjlPOGuI8Zx 4.gAZT3V2tDvlOqlGUs._Lf_KRM2O_fMshZLbw4aX4QOWNf26PP8ylL5fgVY ToiFjJ9YnMYEkKFkVR.GiAEGaqda9OJ1JixfMh5aHtWe2EFTeA5Utto0KtNZ SB.CYNiAUyxbvqsZzl.BP_k.m2ErN63b2a99loT7OKWJ0wRDmpqNQRvWryg7 oAmTzpXbQOuoWY4vxZMnw0WY7djxdWPKWNPePgPEMw9W6.SZhiKj1GKB8byp .nbGnMKJuw31MMRJdffspgq1QM9VkDtdsbBDlWvktg27n7LiadeuniloQPDP zjE9CvJVAhoMyTZZOOFtpiwud7hdLntOQdtBKS_Z7CttGGKjwGNGSx2_LaKF IAmk2fPKJrETMP0nVpupxDGrd3aHP4p_i7qgeCJsKAzELn5aV7dmy7QLrkZi aKA_JjhSEiAXD.SSkasQ- Received: from [208.114.39.18] by web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:17:06 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.113.313619 References: Message-ID: <1312586226.67810.YahooMailNeo@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:17:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly Troyer Reply-To: Kelly Troyer Subject: Re: Ideas for direct injection To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-220522012-1312586226=:67810" --0-220522012-1312586226=:67810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ernest,=0A=A0=A0=A0 Come on out..........Only about 111 F in the shade toda= y !!...........<:)...........=0AYou may not be able to completely rid the f= uel pooling in your gator-aid size=0Aplenum until the secondary=A0injectors= are=A0inside the runnersbut aiming them=0Atoward the runners should help a= lot...............=0A=0AKelly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A"13= B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold= =0A"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A=0AFrom: Ernest Christley =0ATo: Rotary motors in aircraft =0ASent: F= riday, August 5, 2011 5:50 PM=0ASubject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ideas for direct i= njection=0A=0AKelly Troyer wrote:=0A> Ernest,=0A>=A0 =A0 Should you need a = 6 port lower manifold let me know..........Will ship you=0A> one posthaste = !!..................=0A> =0A=0AHold onto it for now, Kelly.=A0 My goal righ= t now is to get a reliable system with the least amount of work, even if it= is not the optimum one.=A0 My project is wanting to be an airplane really = bad.=0A=0AI don't think my intake is the best it could be, but the EGTs are= close to being equal, and I will see soon if I'm making sufficient power f= or flight.=A0 (now that I've about finished the priming and sanding.)=A0 If= I cure the pooling of fuel in the bottom of the intake, I'll call it good = enough.=A0 I think the easiest path to that point may be to turn the second= ary injectors around to spray into the outer intake runners.=A0 Once I'm fl= ying, I can turn my attention to optimizing an intake, and at that point th= e flange off a 6-port lower manifold will be useful; but, at that point I'l= l be able to fly out and pick it up from you personally 8*)=0A=0A--=0AHomep= age:=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/=0AArchive and UnSub:=A0 http://mail.lanca= ironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html --0-220522012-1312586226=:67810 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ernest,
    C= ome on out..........Only about 111 F in the shade today !!...........<:)= ...........
You may not be able = to completely rid the fuel pooling in your gator-aid size
plenum until the sec= ondary injectors are inside the runnersbut aiming them
toward the runners s= hould help a lot...............
 
Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil = Manifold
"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

From:= Ernest Christley <echristley@att.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrota= ry@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 5:50 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ideas for direct injection

Kelly Troyer wrote:
> Ernest,
>    Should you ne= ed a 6 port lower manifold let me know..........Will ship you
> one p= osthaste !!..................
>

Hold onto it for now, Kelly.&= nbsp; My goal right now is to get a reliable system with the least amount of work, even = if it is not the optimum one.  My project is wanting to be an airplane= really bad.

I don't think my intake is the best it could be, but th= e EGTs are close to being equal, and I will see soon if I'm making sufficie= nt power for flight.  (now that I've about finished the priming and sa= nding.)  If I cure the pooling of fuel in the bottom of the intake, I'= ll call it good enough.  I think the easiest path to that point may be= to turn the secondary injectors around to spray into the outer intake runn= ers.  Once I'm flying, I can turn my attention to optimizing an intake= , and at that point the flange off a 6-port lower manifold will be useful; = but, at that point I'll be able to fly out and pick it up from you personal= ly 8*)

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