X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm14-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.162] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with SMTP id 5069550 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:38:34 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.162; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from [98.139.44.99] by nm14.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jul 2011 20:37:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.86] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jul 2011 20:37:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jul 2011 20:37:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 853630.86479.bm@omp1023.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 33349 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jul 2011 20:37:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1312144679; bh=CJgRZJkgU0oitT0wugGTFpw3ERlCv6eLdr/5f4VrDDM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OoPc6hUjGKc7+ZBqdqCCsQXwM6yE9+HKmHCBvIqhjJykMSc/x9SZRc9NEIw+mcKr0j9bSM42mmFF2FcGK+f1bQFZhavb0BLohQwRjbB3Ob4l/tWjyxI6y23T+a+jGeEZpL70KRpeBICKjUhfbBqpFQtjp4PBi/Y7F1vZt+DgH5M= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lPbGUfvIR2kxt72BS+JzW0fmZ3L1pB5lGYmaRzMVyM0f6xEZFhZfiyow9S7Vo17rxo7uycVCKZpHMFQ7+tKt6lPVLYKbZgzck3nUSKf2/v8S1xhcrbInpqiGHM3VNkphvWk/BxiILFDqfPljfrrFYOEOAfT2QBsKZAj8bBG+AKU=; X-YMail-OSG: AW6gWwEVM1nsHkdwwGz2RciQhUCr6uHuQxTJIs3OXPU8Z4V QZua862NcT2SnKM.GiBToBzTmtzpLyRK0oC_D8PYTwHriCzNAu_wPKMp5XTq yE3NYUEjtoJCrVLvR9_Nm_8RpM_UGDSy6uk0RsYcQeVAThJY4Su8dAivwdlg nxAmxmIQMsRNjeJpQ2E4NOZtXTJr5b8UWjMYG0QonoCND5ZKArCENXR4f9gj Qb2il8_jr9dZybowdpXnk2w5roub1vzg7PQ6jLpzSfc4Z7T7fPrrd0tGz3vs jKIiHsnI1mV7llVWTRLWVMreaBY4qKCng6xGKypTyza5C4qzUguSmr0kyMuw qxasEHQ6weSQstXwDUcsZTUO2zVfulI0noDnPcJClvagM0YnnoPhQixwvh2j _eJoqkzrM81CFjCzextSgeo3.MeDlIUHlIrq2xO8npeam6NiDfszifpVLnEZ 7mzf8NYThSjVYLlcrN.Y2jSZSe_Ck08iP2LrIj32p_RQBPiC9PsaxaTYMTso GhV6CWzRBB2Rr86E5KxwECUktV88BGBFaF2k- Received: from [208.114.39.18] by web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:37:59 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.310352 References: Message-ID: <1312144679.71517.YahooMailNeo@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:37:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly Troyer Reply-To: Kelly Troyer Subject: Rotary Spreadsheet To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1853494399-1312144679=:71517" --0-1853494399-1312144679=:71517 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David,=0A=A0=A0 Did Bulent tell you how many flight hours he had on his (no= w yours) Cosmo 13B=A0??............He was turboed=0Afor awhile then went NA= ............Mark needs numbers for his Spreadsheet..............=0A=A0=0ATh= anks=0A=0AKelly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engi= ne=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_= TO4E50 Turbo=0A=0AFrom: David Moyer =0ATo: Rotary mot= ors in aircraft =0ASent: Friday, July 29, 2011= 7:00 PM=0ASubject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Burn=0A=0A=0AYes, I might be inter= ested in just selling the engine. $7,500=0A=0ALet me know if your intereste= d.=A0=0A=0A--=A0=0ADavid Moyer=0ARemcon Associates, LLC=0ATel: 281-360-2158= =0AFax: 281-360-2168=0ACell: 281-795-2712=0A=0AOn Jul 29, 2011, at 6:47 PM,= William Wilson wrote:=0A=0A=0AI might be intereste= d in your engine (but probably not the rest of the plane)... would you cons= ider selling it separately?=0A>=0A>=0A>On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Da= vid Moyer wrote:=0A>=0A>Sam,=0A>>=0A>>I currently ha= ve my Cozy MK-IV listed for sale on Barnstormers with a rotary engine on en= gine mount that has already been in another Flying Cozy. Not sure if you ha= ve already started your project or would be interested, but check it out. I= f you are interested I can send you more info and pictures.=0A>>=0A>>http:/= /www.barnstormers.com/classified_571337_COZY+MARK-IV+PROJECT+%5E+OFFER.html= =0A>>David Moyer=0DRemcon Associates, LLC=0DTel: 281-360-2158 Fax: 281-360-= 2168 Cell: 281-795-2712=0A>>=0A>>On 7/29/2011 10:21 AM, Samuel Treffinger w= rote: =0A>>Thank you all for your input. This confirms that there will be a= rotary in my cozy MK iv.=A0=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Sam=0A>>>=0A>>>Sent from my i= Phone=0A>>>=0A>>>On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Charlie England wrote:=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Actually, if you can get the burn down= to .47/hr, that's better than where most a/c engine fliers are willing to = go (fears of poorly understood=A0 dangers of burning exhaust valves). Low o= ctane car gas has more energy than avgas, too, as long as it doesn't have a= lcohol in it.=0A>>>>=0A>>>>Charlie=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>>On 7/29/2011 9:21 AM= , bktrub@aol.com wrote: =0A>>>>Yes, but if you use mogas at ~ $3.85 a gallo= n versus avagas at $6+ a gallon, you are saving money. Range is decreased t= hough.=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>Brian Trubee=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>-= ----Original Message-----=0A>>>>>From: Tracy =0A>>>>>To= : Rotary motors in aircraft =0A>>>>>Sent: Fri,= Jul 29, 2011 7:09 am=0A>>>>>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Burn=0A>>>>>=0A>= >>>>=0A>>>>>Hi Sam,=0D There has not been any significant dyne testing of= the Mazda rotary in=20=0Daircraft configuration (and there are no two alik= e) so I don't think anyone can=20=0Dgive you those numbers. Typical fuel b= urn at cruise is between 6.5 and 8.5 GPH. =20=0DEveryone uses their own po= wer setting for cruise.=0D=0DBest info we have on BSFC is around .45 - .47 = lb/HP/hr.=0D=0DTracy=0D=0DSent from my iPad=0D=0DOn Jul 28, 2011, at 4:40 P= M, Samuel Treffinger =20=0Dwrote:=0D=0D> Hey, = What kind of fuel burn are you guys getting at say 60% power and 75%=20=0Dp= ower??=0D> thanks,=0D> Sam=0D=0D--=0DHomepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Ar= chive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html= =0A>>>>=0A> --0-1853494399-1312144679=:71517 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
David,
   Did Bul= ent tell you how many flight hours he had on his (now yours) Cosmo 13B = ;??............He was turboed
for awhile then went= NA............Mark needs numbers for his Spreadsheet..............
 
Thanks
 
Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil = Manifold
"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

From:= David Moyer <davidm@remconinc.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@la= ncaironline.net>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 7:00 PM
Sub= ject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Burn

Yes, I might be interested in just selling the engine. $7,500

Let me know if your interested. 

-- 
David Moyer
Remcon Associates, LLC
Tel: 281-360-2158
Fax: 281-360-2168
Cell: 281-795-2712

On Jul 29, 2011, at 6:47 PM, William Wilson <fluffysheap@gmail.com> wrote:

I might be interested in your engine (but probably not the rest of the= plane)... would you consider selling it separately?

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Dav= id Moyer <davidm@remconinc.com> wrote:
Sam,

I currently have my Cozy MK-IV listed for sale on Barnstor= mers with a rotary engine on engine mount that has already been in another = Flying Cozy. Not sure if you have already started your project or would be = interested, but check it out. If you are interested I can send you more inf= o and pictures.

http://www.barnstormers.com= /classified_571337_COZY+MARK-IV+PROJECT+%5E+OFFER.html
David Moyer
Remcon Associates, LLC
Tel: 281-360-2158
Fax: 281-360-2168
Cell: 281-795-2712

On 7/29/2011 10:21 AM, Samuel Treffinger w= rote:=20
Thank you all for your input. This confirms that there will be a rotar= y in my cozy MK iv. 

Sam

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Charlie England <ceenglan= d@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Actually, if you can get the burn down to .47/hr, that's better than w= here most a/c engine fliers are willing to go (fears of poorly understood&n= bsp; dangers of burning exhaust valves). Low octane car gas has more energy= than avgas, too, as long as it doesn't have alcohol in it.

Charlie<= BR>

On 7/29/2011 9:21 AM, bktrub@aol.com wrote:=20
Yes, but if you use mogas at ~ $3.85 a gallon versus avagas at $6+ a g= allon, you are saving money. Range is decreased though.
 
Brian Trubee



-----Original Message-----
From: Tracy = <rws= tracy@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrot= ary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:09 am
Sub= ject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Burn

Hi Sam, There has not been any significant dyne testing of the Mazda rotary in= =20 aircraft configuration (and there are no two alike) so I don't think anyone= can=20 give you those numbers. Typical fuel burn at cruise is between 6.5 and 8.5= GPH. =20 Everyone uses their own power setting for cruise. Best info we have on BSFC is around .45 - .47 lb/HP/hr. Tracy Sent from my iPad On Jul 28, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Samuel Treffinger <samuel.treffinger@gmail.com>=20 wrote: > Hey, What kind of fuel burn are you guys getting at say 60% power and = 75%=20 power?? > thanks, > Sam -- Homepage: h= ttp://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html



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