X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.147] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTP id 5068889 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:02:10 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.105.147; envelope-from=Bktrub@aol.com Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p6V01Pr8000643 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:01:25 -0400 Received: from Bktrub@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id q.1143.4735096 (55912) for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:01:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-me03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-me03.mx.aol.com [64.12.95.104]) by cia-md06.mx.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMD067-b30f4e349b4fdc; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:01:20 -0400 Received: from webmail-d153 (webmail-d153.sim.aol.com [205.188.58.133]) by smtprly-me03.mx.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYME037-b30f4e349b4fdc; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:01:19 -0400 References: To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Back to Phase 1 testing Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:01:19 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 50.46.146.205 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: bktrub@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CE1D2C1BFD535F_2784_999E1_webmail-d153.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33996-STANDARD Received: from 50.46.146.205 by webmail-d153.sysops.aol.com (205.188.58.133) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:01:19 -0400 Message-Id: <8CE1D2C1BF16C7F-2784-44599@webmail-d153.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Bktrub@aol.com ----------MB_8CE1D2C1BFD535F_2784_999E1_webmail-d153.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Oh, and by the way, went up for two hours today and can confirm that the= CAS sensor polarity issue was the source of my problems.=20 Brian Trubee -----Original Message----- From: Bill Bradburry To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Sat, Jul 30, 2011 11:13 am Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back to Phase 1 testing ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tracy=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:06 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back to Phase 1 testing =20 Mark S. - 200 hrs Ed A. - 590 hrs Tracy C. - 1850 (RV-4) + 56 (RV-8) 1906 hrs total =20 David L. -=20 Bobby H. -=20 Dennis H. - 275 hrs - RV-7A Renesis Bill B - 23 hrs - Lancair Legacy FG Renesis others... =20 On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: So, how many hours do you have on your rotary now? Tracy, what's your tot= al rotary flight hours? Just yesterday, someone was trying to label me as= the "Rotary Guru" because I have almost 200 hours now. I quickly informe= d them that there are many others that are way ahead of me. Its been a wh= ile since we last tallied the total flight hours. So, if everyone flying= wants to reply, I'll tally up the new total. =20 =20 Mark S. - 200 hrs Ed A. -=20 Tracy C. - =20 David L. -=20 Bobby H. -=20 Dennis H. -=20 others... =20 =20 =20 On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Ed Anderson = wrote: You know, Mark, there are some things you just can't give away - because= nobody else wants them for some strange reason {:>) =20 Ed Edward L. Anderson Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC 305 Reefton Road Weddington, NC 28104 http://www.andersonee.com http://www.eicommander.com From: Mark Steitle=20 Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:17 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back to Phase 1 testing =20 Ed, =20 =20 There's little chance of anyone else catching up to you anyway. You're th= e HCH champ! =20 Mark On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Ed Anderson = wrote: Ok, Mark, but that detracts 2 points from your "Hairy Chested Hero" credi= t {:>) =20 Ed =20 From: Mark Steitle=20 Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 7:20 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back to Phase 1 testing =20 =20 Gee, two rotors to come home on doesn't provide much excitement, =20 Ed, =20 That's the whole point of going with a 3-rotor, that and MORE POWER!!! BW= AAAAAHHHHH =20 Mark =20 On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Ed Anderson = wrote: Gee, two rotors to come home on doesn't provide much excitement, Tracy. Sort of reminds me way back in the old days of using the Rx-7 ignition coi= ls and ballast resistors blowing on them. For some reason seems like that= only happened to you and me. We are all awaiting some performance numbers for that RV8-3R, so next time= take your bottle and give those Ls1 coils a real try out. Ed -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tracy" Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:13 PM To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back to Phase 1 testing=20 =20 Was finally getting around to doing hot weather cooling and altitude perfo= rmance testing in the RV-8 yesterday. Cooling was good during a high pow= er climb to 14500 ft where I leveled out ( I had forgotten to put the Ox= bottle in the plane). Throttled up to WOT to see where the speed topped= out at but. After less than a minute I felt some engine roughness and= noticed rotor 3 EGT went above alarm threshold so I throttled back to low= power. #3 EGT then went low off scale and I could tell that the engine= was only running on 2 rotors. I then smelled a faint electrical burning= smell that lasted about 2 minutes. Engine was surprisingly smooth for= having a dead rotor and still had more than enough power for cruise fligh= t but obviously it was time to get back on the ground and find out what we= nt wrong. did all the usual diagnostics on the long glide down with no= joy. Made normal landing, poped off the cowl and coil diagnostics test revealed= that both coils on rotor 3 were dead. I had done the coil disable tests= prior to takeoff so I know they were both good then. I'm using RX-8 coil= s and there have been too many failures for me to feel good about them any= longer. I ordered a set of LS-1s to replace them. Tracy -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.h= tml -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List= .html =20 =20 =20 =20 ----------MB_8CE1D2C1BFD535F_2784_999E1_webmail-d153.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Oh, and by the way, went= up for two hours today and can confirm that the CAS sensor polarity issue= was the source of my problems.
 
Brian Trubee



-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sat, Jul 30, 2011 11:13 am
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back to Phase 1 testing

----- Original Message -----
From: Tracy
Sent:= Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:06 PM
Subject:<= /B> [FlyRotary] Re: Back to Phase 1 testing
 
Mark S. -    200 hrs
Ed A. -       590 hrs
Tracy C. -  1850 (RV-4) + 56 (RV-8)  1906= hrs total  
David L. - 
Bobby H. - 
Dennis H. - 275 hrs  - RV-7A Renesis=
Bill B -  = ;  23 hrs   -  Lancair Legacy FG Renesis=
others...
 <= /div>
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com> wrote:
So, how many hours do you have on your rotary now? &n= bsp;Tracy, what's your total rotary flight hours?  Just yesterday, so= meone was trying to label me as the "Rotary Guru" because I have almost 20= 0 hours now.  I quickly informed them that there are many others that= are way ahead of me.  Its been a while since we last tallied the tot= al flight hours.  So, if everyone flying wants to reply, I'll tally= up the new total.  
 
Mark S. - 200 hrs
Ed A. - 
Tracy C. -    
David L. - 
Bobby H. - 
Dennis H. - 
others...
 
 
 
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com&g= t; wrote:
You know, Mark, there are some things you jus= t can't give away - because nobody else wants them for some strange reason=  {:>)
 
Ed=
Edward L. And= erson
Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC
305 Reefton Road
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.anderson= ee.com
http://www.eicomma= nder.com
From: Mark Steitle
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:17= AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back to= Phase 1 testing
 
Ed, 
 
There's little chance of anyone else catching up to= you anyway.  You're the HCH champ!
 
Mark
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com&g= t; wrote:
Ok, Mark,  but that detracts 2 points fr= om your "Hairy Chested Hero" credit {:>)
 
Ed
 
From: Mark Steitle
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 7:20 PM=
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back to= Phase 1 testing
 
 
Gee, two ro= tors to come home on doesn't provide much excitement,
 
Ed,<= /FONT>
 
That's the= whole point of going with a 3-rotor, that and MORE POWER!!!  BWAAAAA= HHHHH
 
Mark=
 
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com= > wrote:
Gee, two rotors to come home on doesn't provide much= excitement, Tracy.

Sort of reminds me way back in the old days of using the Rx-7 ignition coi= ls and ballast resistors blowing on them.  For some reason seems like= that only happened to you and me.

We are all awaiting some performance numbers for that RV8-3R, so next time= take your bottle and give those Ls1 coils a real try out.

Ed

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tracy" <rwstracy@gmail.com= >
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:13 PM
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back to Phase 1 testing
 <= /div>
Was finally getting= around to doing hot weather cooling and altitude performance testing in= the RV-8 yesterday.   Cooling was good during a high power climb to= 14500 ft where I leveled out ( I had forgotten to put the Ox bottle in th= e plane).   Throttled up to WOT to see where the speed topped out at= but.   After less than a minute I felt some engine roughness and not= iced rotor 3 EGT went above alarm threshold so I throttled back to low pow= er.   #3 EGT then went low off scale and I could tell that the engine= was only running on 2 rotors.   I then smelled a faint electrical bu= rning smell that lasted about 2 minutes.   Engine was surprisingly sm= ooth for having a dead rotor and still had more than enough power for crui= se flight but obviously it was time to get back on the ground and find out= what went wrong.   did all the usual diagnostics on the long glide= down with no joy.

Made normal landing, poped off the cowl and coil diagnostics test revealed= that both coils on rotor 3 were dead.   I had done the coil disable= tests prior to takeoff so I know they were both good then.  I'm usin= g RX-8 coils and there have been too many failures for me to feel good abo= ut them any longer.   I ordered a set of LS-1s to replace them.

Tracy
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