Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #55728
From: William Wilson <fluffysheap@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ok Here are the important flywheel measurements
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:22:43 -0600
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
That might work, actually.  (But you should use 3/8" to get the right distance).

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Ernest Christley <echristley@att.net> wrote:
William Wilson wrote:
I'd recommend getting a turbo starter to go with the turbo flywheel.  It should bolt right on.  The flywheel assembly spins pretty fast and needs to be balanced, I wouldn't trust welding there, or at least not MY welding :)  I think starters are physically interchangeable for all turbo cars from 86 on plus RX-8s, but to be absolutely sure you could also match the series of car.  (You can probably find an RX-8 in a local junkyard).

why not just add a spacer made of 1/4" aluminum plate?




On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 10:41 PM, David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com <mailto:wdleonard@gmail.com>> wrote:

   I finally got to the hangar and measured out my S5 turbo flywheel
   and the remains of my S5 flexplate.  The results are very
   encouraging, even as good as the possibly could be to make the swap,
   but I only had ten min at the hangar before I had to leave to pick
   up my daughter from daycare, so they are one try and slightly
   sloppy... I make no guarantees.  The height measurements of the flex
   plate were particularly suspect because, well, mine is all warped
   and broken.

   *Ring Gear Diameter* - Perfect fit.  As we suspected, same size,
   same tooth spacing.

   *Ring Gear Fore-Aft Placement* - As measured from the underside of
   the big nut. (for all further reference, aft means aft in the CAR).     The flex plate puts the aft side of the ring gear 1.290 inches from
   the front of the big nut. The flywheel puts it 0.913.  So the flex
   plate puts the ring gear (appx) 0.377 in. further aft.  This is
   actually fortuitous because it just so happens that the ring gear
   thickness is .365 ...    So all we have to do to fix the discrepancy
   is weld and extra ring gears onto to the flywheel ring gear and
   there will be teeth that the starter can reach:(bottom of the page..
   the cost $80)
   http://mazdatrix.com/flywheel.htm
   It may also be possible to fix the discrepancy by changing the
   starter... will look into that.

   *Damper Plate Placement* - On the flywheel, the mounting surface is
   proud (or aft) of the ring gear.  On the flex plate, the mounting
   surface is recessed (or forward) from the ring gear. And it all
   pretty much works out.  That position on the flywheel will vary
   somewhat depending on which flywheel you have and how much wear you
   have on the clutch slip surface. But on my (I assume well-worn)
   flywheel the placement was 0.965 while the flex plate was 0.950.     Pretty damn close and given measurement error it might me meant to
   be right on.  Or, any difference could be made up by trimming down
   the spline on the damper plate or removing or adding spacers between
   the two.

   So in my mind, a flywheel is the way to go.  Stout, easy to get,
   pick your weight, only mods seem to be drilling the mounting holes
   and welding on a second gear ring.

   --     David Leonard

   Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
   http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
   http://RotaryRoster.net




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