X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm19-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.172] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with SMTP id 5040176 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 23:32:14 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.172; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from [98.139.44.107] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2011 03:31:39 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.88] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2011 03:31:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2011 03:31:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 501142.93777.bm@omp1025.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 78769 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Jul 2011 03:31:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1309577499; bh=OAwkQVwUtJhCcXur5dQFE+cwzBHycXY/0s5prBrltbo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Td/4gCTZi5Z5zQVrNLGf6qn/8VxXE4qtLqv8uwoBA+XTG2BevSjQcfxxEcNVMVlS2oaX3JC0j23VuxUOOg0BE/YLtV4v70WMNKuw6YPzYt0f9tViIcqXZGy1as2ucURlpvJALBXDECm9fg5gG5oBUk/tbBu9zPzJPNk9BIdK8eI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rKKgibrc211t2uysJWj/skKXCw0Z1aIE0137NZ/KhYUl9d2agZ8vNr3okQT82i9isoSMXLqjMSx6Cv6Yt6sjDb+DUqldEz9/UiJuEaihBAf4QwTsUwnIf2IT2vxBfQekVrJ/iRkJFkTnAkwUxHOBKUKCT/LNcfPJQiKmvXrES9w=; X-YMail-OSG: bB3RHvgVM1knyoBT47QGhu3vFoTyvjumXq.fM8wfpi2_gXZ 0Y78AsCwz6Z642ZqcF6hnuKHuUiNY.vYntgTHPokav5.pIXlWTVA85d75h_h rs_1t3I04Wn3UqxboGQgezd6h6gTFYsdtmaZpN6Sw31EisKtzlfhCQBEWWVy 2cV3dXfj755z4R.wedHViDoBIPxmo2fqQJHkhfM_CdAwEDFpAXPodLFZv1Vi .Th5pO2iUPIGmEA0iZUG4cD7DZdthzBWPeaVnSVldPH92baEAG09OwWqTRYC dUrW6Cbs7_mfDNpCiVYofvYKLxLFzdHI_EgPiO_BOyEcwu5B6QLFLZIgh.Mm SG_tnaiw9z_cEzav_3qcjCSG4NY88S1zC50KeIWDP16vKEOZlfKlvffsUOXA SDtLmTfH4Njc0nNP0iL09Zi8h8dylRldcoNgxFLk956yKYKZ1n2LP.7Gqxw7 ICzMfwAxikvodLmUJemUD_jn.oqzpNxvdSISaBajhOans4W8yDcHMDjsRHEJ rGaankzcDE9Y7Kiz7U5ZhY5Lf1tsfbRyzc8hfKRUlfo.1kO7jycBU0XCb0B0 vFSba3Of8ZL8trk_prsjRtVvPXe0BWaoMdCmEO6dvpiSJcZgmWiG8AFKNiJt m1QmLzNduDAaGX01JflOQ4PqGQ4p4jMOv4SnSnYEq303T7pI2HCr.pgi1KOm bkXfr65R_TAuGggg7P7CkWTLat2z7vKUNhkN61v3SOfE0kyYc0obuhZbTmx9 a.D600ie5OAcaIa5VQFnH9g0L4O6YPGd1ml5yGJUKldXnVgwdxteYR_l8ZtB 8oxmY1EXOPxRA2vvNmH4I Received: from [208.114.39.18] by web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 20:31:39 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.307740 References: Message-ID: <1309577499.31294.YahooMailNeo@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 20:31:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly Troyer Reply-To: Kelly Troyer Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Water injection system To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1541101984-1309577499=:31294" --0-1541101984-1309577499=:31294 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave,=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Try this link...............=0A=C2=A0=0Ahttp://w= ww.summitracing.com/search/Part-Type/Water-Injection-System-Nozzles/=0A=0AK= elly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_= RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turb= o=0A=0AFrom: David Leonard =0ATo: Rotary motors in air= craft =0ASent: Friday, July 1, 2011 9:41 PM=0A= Subject: [FlyRotary] Water injection system=0A=0A=0ABobby,=0AThanks so much= for the help.=C2=A0 So, is that 100cc/min?=C2=A0 Then in a 15 min race I w= ould only use 1.5L of ADI?=C2=A0 If so, I could easly addapt my existing sm= oke system to double as ADI injection. (It holds about 3 gal). =C2=A0That w= ould make it really easy! =C2=A0I would probably use 2 100cc and turn them = on manually at 40" - I am only using the system for a handful of races..=0A= =0AI didn't see just the nozzles on any on the Snow Performance web site. = =C2=A0Should I just call them?=0A=0A--=C2=A0=0ADavid Leonard=0A=0ATurbo Rot= ary RV-6 N4VY=0Ahttp://n4vy.rotaryroster.net/=0Ahttp://rotaryroster.net/=0A= =0A=0AOn Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Bobby J. Hughes wr= ote:=0A=0ADave,=0A>=C2=A0=0A>I=E2=80=99m using an ET150 110V pump with 1/8= =E2=80=9D NPTF fittings. It=E2=80=99s rated for continuous duty and weights= a little over a pound. Snow Performance for nozzles and fittings. =C2=A0I = based the controller on the attached pdf. The LM339 chip will allow you to = control up to four different nozzles triggered at different MP sensor volta= ges. =C2=A0So you could trigger a 60CC injector at 36 MP and another 60cc a= t 40 MP etc. I run one 100CC triggered at 32 MP with no intercooler for cli= mb. =0A>=C2=A0=0A>http://www.clarksol.com/html/prodspecsET50-BPump.cfm=0A>= =C2=A0=0A>http://www.lovehorsepower.com/images/WI/Controller/water_injectio= n_controller_schematic3.jpg =0A>=C2=A0=0A>=C2=A0Bobby=0A>From:Rotary motors= in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonar= d=0A>Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:40 PM =0A>=0A>To: Rotary motors in aircr= aft=0A>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [Bulk] [FlyRotary] Re: GSL393/74028 Fuel Pu= mp Replacement/Fuel Leak=0A>=C2=A0=0A>=C2=A0=0A>=C2=A0=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>On Jun= 30, 2011, at 11:42 PM, "Bill Bradburry" wrote:= =0A>>=C2=A0 It will be difficult to burn more than about 20 gal per with a = rotary.=C2=A0 Maybe as much as 30 gal with a turbocharged 20b.=0A>>>=C2=A0= =0A>>>Bill B=0A>>>=C2=A0=0A>>>=0A>>>=C2=A0=0A>I=C2=A0was seeing upwards of = 30 gph with my turbo 13B while running the pylons at Reno. That would be ab= out 45gph with a turbo 20B.=C2=A0 Course I was running really rich to be su= re I avoided detonation..=C2=A0 Am trying to design a water injection syste= m to use more boost and run a little leaner.=0A>-- =0A>David Leonard=0A>=0A= >Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY=0A>http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net=0A>http://RotaryRos= ter.net=0A>--=0A>Homepage: =C2=A0http://www.flyrotary.com/=0A>Archive and U= nSub: =C2=A0 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html=0A>= =0A> --0-1541101984-1309577499=:31294 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dave,
    T= ry this link...............
 
 
Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil = Manifold
"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

From:= David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@l= ancaironline.net>
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2011 9:41 PM
Sub= ject: [FlyRotary] Water injection system

Bobby,
Thanks so much for the help.  So, is that 100cc/min?  Then i= n a 15 min race I would only use 1.5L of ADI?  If so, I could easly ad= dapt my existing smoke system to double as ADI injection. (It holds about 3= gal).  That would make it really easy!  I would probably use 2 1= 00cc and turn them on manually at 40" - I am only using the system for a ha= ndful of races..

I didn't see just the nozzles on any on the Snow Performance web site.=  Should I just call them?

-- 
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://n4vy= .rotaryroster.net/
http://rotaryroster.net/

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Bobby= J. Hughes <bhughes@qnsi.net= > wrote:
Dave,=
&= nbsp;
I=E2=80= =99m using an ET150 110V pump with 1/8=E2=80=9D NPTF fittings. It=E2=80=99s= rated for continuous duty and weights a little over a pound. Snow Performa= nce for nozzles and fittings.  I based the controller on the attached = pdf. The LM339 chip will allow you to control up to four different nozzles = triggered at different MP sensor voltages.  So you could trigger a 60C= C injector at 36 MP and another 60cc at 40 MP etc. I run one 100CC triggere= d at 32 MP with no intercooler for climb.
&= nbsp;
http://w= ww.clarksol.com/html/prodspecsET50-BPump.cfm
&= nbsp;
http://w= ww.lovehorsepower.com/images/WI/Controller/water_injection_controller_schem= atic3.jpg
&= nbsp;
 Bobby
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net= ] On Behalf Of David Leonar= d
Sent: Friday, July 01,= 2011 1:40 PM

= To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] R= e: [Bulk] [FlyRotary] Re: GSL393/74028 Fuel Pump Replacement/Fuel Leak
 
 
 

<= /FONT>
On Jun 30, 2011, at 11:42 PM, = "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry= @bellsouth.net> wrote:
  I= t will be difficult to burn more than about 20 gal per with a rotary. = Maybe as much as 30 gal with a turbocharged 20b.
 
Bill B
 

 
I was seeing upwards of 30 gph with m= y turbo 13B while running the pylons at Reno. T= hat would be about 45gph with a turbo 20B.  Course I was running reall= y rich to be sure I avoided detonation..  Am trying to design a water = injection system to use more boost and run a little leaner.
--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary R= V-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net

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