X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-pw0-f52.google.com ([209.85.160.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTPS id 5032583 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 20:13:58 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.160.52; envelope-from=andrew@martinag.com.au Received: by pwi15 with SMTP id 15so2279788pwi.25 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:13:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.60.16 with SMTP id i16mr912217wfa.343.1309047200844; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.88.235] ([203.42.105.31]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v6sm3166849pbh.22.2011.06.25.17.13.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Floscan orientation, fuel line size References: From: Andrew Martin Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-27514301 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8F190) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <4BF007B0-7196-4C44-9FEC-8A2979079365@martinag.com.au> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:13:07 +0800 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8F190) --Apple-Mail-1-27514301 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm running 1/4". With 4 wing tanks, tube from tip tanks to wing root is alu= minum, rest rubber. I have space between floor and belly where I mounted pum= ps and pressure regulator on a header tank so I don't have to return fuel to= wing tanks and only 1 line going forward to motor. Not flying yet but just finished fuel system. I put some fuel through it yes= terday to check for leaks, didn't do an actual flow test but it is plenty fa= st enough with those pumps that Tracy sells. I think that the big hose theory is from the carby days, not really applicab= le when you add a efi pump to the system. How I convinced myself 1/4" was ok, was to lay about twice as much hose as t= he plane needs on the workshop floor, put a pump in the middle of it, a full= tank at one end and an empty at the other and let the pump transfer it, can= 't remember the flow rate but it was more than adequate. Kind Regards Andrew Martin Lightwing speed 4000 Renisis=20 On 25/06/2011, at 10:14 PM, Charlie England wrote:= > OK, 2 questions.=20 >=20 > 1. For those using Floscan fuel flow transducers: >=20 > Anyone have a floscan 201 sensor that's working ok while mounted in other t= han a horizontal position? My most convenient location would have the fuel p= ath flowing up at a 45 degree angle. In addition, the mounting can have the w= ires 'up', but mounting would be a bit more convenient with the wires pointi= ng horizontally. >=20 > 2. While researching Q1, I found a note from the guy who makes Airflow Per= formance fuel injection systems for Lycs (they run at around 15-30 psi), rec= ommending 1/4" (AN-4) fuel lines firewall forward to minimize fuel heating &= vapor lock. I've already been tempted to consider this instead of -6 (saves= weight, running lines is easier, etc) because the injection pumps &= automotive systems use small diameter lines, but was reluctant to go agains= t 'convention'. Has anyone who's flying an injected rotary used -4 fuel line= s to feed the engine? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Charlie --Apple-Mail-1-27514301 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I'm running 1/4". With 4 wing tanks, tu= be from tip tanks to wing root is aluminum, rest rubber. I have space betwee= n floor and belly where I mounted pumps and pressure regulator on a header t= ank so I don't have to return fuel to wing tanks and only 1 line going forwa= rd to motor.
Not flying yet but just finished fuel system. I put s= ome fuel through it yesterday to check for leaks, didn't do an actual flow t= est but it is plenty fast enough with those pumps that Tracy sells.
I think that the big hose theory is from the carby days, not really applic= able when you add a efi pump to the system.
How I convinced myself= 1/4" was ok, was to lay about twice as much hose as the plane needs on the w= orkshop floor, put a pump in the middle of it, a full tank at one end and an= empty at the other and let the pump transfer it, can't remember the flow ra= te but it was more than adequate.

Kind Regards
Andrew Mart= in
Lightwing speed 4000
Renisis 
On 25/06/2011, at 10:14 PM, Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net> wrote:

OK, 2 questions.

1. For those using Floscan fuel flow transducers:


Anyone have a floscan 201 sensor that's working ok while mounted in other than a horizontal position? My most convenient location would have the fuel path flowing up at a 45 degree angle. In addition, the mounting can have the wires 'up', but mounting would be a bit more convenient with the wires pointing horizontally.

2. While researching Q1, I found a note from the guy who makes Airflow Performance fuel injection systems for Lycs (they run at around 15-30 psi), recommending 1/4" (AN-4) fuel lines firewall forward to minimize fuel heating & vapor lock. I've already been tempted to consider this instead of -6 (saves weight, running lines is easier, etc) because the injection pumps & automotive systems use small diameter lines, but was reluctant to go against 'convention'. Has anyone who's flying an injected rotary used -4 fuel lines to feed the engine?

Thanks,

Charlie
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