X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [66.219.56.245] (HELO mail.qnsi.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTP id 5022303 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:17:58 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.219.56.245; envelope-from=bhughes@qnsi.net Return-Receipt-To: "Bobby J. Hughes" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CC2C31.0D720E60" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540 Disposition-Notification-To: "Bobby J. Hughes" Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:24:07 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Message-ID: <74120FDE88CAFE4DBDA8814BCE20A3F32F93FC@qnsi-mail.qnsi.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540 Thread-Index: AcwrxTiUlGAe+VJlQYam0jI6bOlAFwAa24iA References: From: "Bobby J. Hughes" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CC2C31.0D720E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill, =20 Any updates you can share about your development work? =20 Bobby ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of wrjjrs@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 6:25 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540 =20 Bill, With respect to racing the Lyc guys are starting to put gearboxes on = them to produce more power. Since the rotary starts with a gearbox there = should be more headroom there. Also since the rotary is already = competitive weight wise it can only get better when aluminum side = housings are available. Bill Jepson=20 Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Bill Bradburry To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wed, Jun 15, 2011 19:05:47 GMT+00:00 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540 I think the baffles were mounted on that Lycoming engine. Bill B -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of wrjjrs@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:40 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540 Dwyane, Not true, as the Lyc requires a good baffle system to work well. No=20 water required of course. The Mistral is a bunch lighter even with heat=20 exchangers and coolant. Bill Jepson -----Original Message----- From: Dwayne Parkinson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wed, Jun 15, 2011 11:28 am Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540 For what it's worth, the IO-540 pictured includes all of the "cooling=20 systems" so it's not quite a straight forward comparison, but pretty=20 nifty none the less. ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:07 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540 Hey, we knew that Mark, I mean - how can you undertake a roll-your-own=20 engine conversion project without being an eternal optimist {:>)?? But, I hope you are right - they were so close. =20 Ed From: Mark Steitle Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:28 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540 Being the eternal optimist, I believe that someone with a fat wallet=20 will come along and carry Mistral's torch across the finish line. They=20 were too close to give it all up for good. Mark S. On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:22 PM, wrjjrs@aol.com wrote: No Bill, The Mistral PSRU was a all new straight cut spur gear unit.=20 Considerably tougher than the Slausen unit. Bill Jepson Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Bill Bradburry=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2011 16:50:06 GMT+00:00 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540 I was under the understanding that the Mistral engine had an SAE 2 prop=20 hub. The hubs are certainly not the same on these two engines!!?? =20 The ratio is the same, but is the Mistral PSRU based on the same gear=20 set as Tracy=92s PSRU? =20 Bill B ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of Kelly Troyer Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:59 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540 =20 Group, Interesting comparison of packaging between the Mistral G-300=20 (Cosmo 20B, 3 Rotor to us) and the Lycoming IO-540 engines...........=20 =20 =20 =20 Kelly Troyer "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) "13B ROTARY"_ Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------_=_NextPart_001_01CC2C31.0D720E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Bill,

 

Any updates you can share = about your development work?

 

Bobby

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of wrjjrs@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, = 2011 6:25 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540

 

Bill,
With respect to racing the Lyc guys are starting to put gearboxes on = them to produce more power. Since the rotary starts with a gearbox there should = be more headroom there. Also since the rotary is already competitive weight wise = it can only get better when aluminum side housings are available.
Bill Jepson

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless



-----Original message-----

From: = Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, Jun 15, 2011 19:05:47 GMT+00:00
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming = IO-540

I think the baffles were mounted on that Lycoming engine.

Bill B

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of wrjjrs@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:40 PM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540

Dwyane,
Not true, as the Lyc requires a good baffle system to work well. No
water required of course. The Mistral is a bunch lighter even with heat =
exchangers and coolant.
Bill Jepson


-----Original Message-----
From: Dwayne Parkinson
To: Rotary motors = in aircraft
Sent: Wed, Jun 15, 2011 11:28 am
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540



For what it's worth, the IO-540 pictured includes all of the = "cooling
systems" so it's not quite a straight forward comparison, but = pretty
nifty none the less.





------------------------------------------------------------
From: Ed Anderson
To: Rotary motors = in aircraft
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:07 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540


Hey, we knew that Mark,  I mean - how can you undertake a = roll-your-own
engine conversion project without being an eternal optimist = {:>)??

But, I hope you are right - they were so close.
 
Ed




From: Mark Steitle
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:28 AM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540



Being the eternal optimist, I believe that someone with a fat wallet =
will come along and carry Mistral's torch across the finish line. =  They
were too close to give it all up for good.


Mark S.


On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:22 PM, wrjjrs@aol.com = wrote:



No Bill,
The Mistral PSRU was a all new straight cut spur gear unit.
Considerably tougher than the Slausen unit.
Bill Jepson
Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless


-----Original message-----


From: Bill Bradburry
To: Rotary motors = in aircraft

Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2011 16:50:06 GMT+00:00
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540





I was under the understanding that the Mistral engine had an SAE 2 prop =
hub.  The hubs are certainly not the same on these two = engines!!??
 
The ratio is the same, but is the Mistral PSRU based on the same gear =
set as Tracy’s PSRU?
 
Bill B

------------------------------------------------------------

From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of Kelly Troyer
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:59 AM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Mistral G-300 vs Lycoming IO-540

 


Group,

    Interesting comparison of packaging between the = Mistral G-300
(Cosmo 20B, 3 Rotor to us) and the

Lycoming IO-540 engines........... 

 

   
 

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo













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