Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:05:25 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from grouse.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.116] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2940998 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:07:33 -0500 Received: from user-33qt4gi.dialup.mindspring.com ([199.174.146.18] helo=Carol) by grouse.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1Aj4y0-0002B3-00 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:07:28 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: <003d01c3dfaa$24b8a1a0$0000a398@Carol> From: "sqpilot@earthlink" X-Original-To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Intake question X-Original-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:07:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C3DF77.D8E849B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C3DF77.D8E849B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Russell Duffy=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Intake question Hi, Rusty.....the first manifold that I received from Atkins (the one = he sells with his EFI fuel and intake system) fit very well on my 1989 = turbo engine. The ports all seemed to line up nicely. It is the short, = straight manifold. I sent it back to him, and traded for the wrap-around = manifold, which is now sitting on a shelf. Nice decoration for my = garage. Hope this helps? Paul Conner=20 That's interesting Paul, but I already called Atkins place yesterday = to ask, and they said they didn't make a straight manifold to fit the = turbo block. I didn't talk to Dave, so maybe the guy on the phone just = didn't know. Maybe it's worth another phone call to talk to Dave. =20 As for welding up the current space, I don't see how it would be = possible. The channels are so narrow, that my tig torch barely fits = inside. How about some other metal? Is there something along the lines = of a brazing alloy that would melt at a substantially lower temp than = aluminum, so I could just heat the entire manifold with a torch, and = pool the molten alloy inside the runner? =20 Thanks for any comments. I've got to get moving on this intake in the = next couple days, since I'm burning vacation time to make this happen. =20 Cheers, Rusty (off to the hanger for some inspiration)=20 Yes, there is a brazing alloy that will melt with a torch. I have = some. I purchased it at Sun-N-Fun. You can use it to repair aluminum = radiators, etc. All you need to do is heat the receiving item with a = propane torch. It does NOT need to be heated until it turns red. =20 As far as the welding is concerened, I was talking about stick = welding. Would the 1/8 inch stick not be able to make it in there? Paul Conner ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C3DF77.D8E849B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
 
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From:=20 Russell=20 Duffy
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 = 10:41=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Intake = question

Hi, = Rusty.....the first=20 manifold that I received from Atkins (the one he sells with his EFI = fuel and=20 intake system) fit very well on my 1989 turbo engine.  The ports = all=20 seemed to line up nicely. It is the short, straight = manifold. I sent=20 it back to him, and traded for the wrap-around manifold, which is now = sitting=20 on a shelf. Nice decoration for my garage.  Hope this = helps?  Paul=20 Conner 
 
That's interesting = Paul, but I=20 already called Atkins place yesterday to ask, and they said they = didn't make a=20 straight manifold to fit the turbo block.  I = didn't talk to=20 Dave, so maybe the guy on the phone just didn't know.  Maybe = it's=20 worth another phone call to talk to=20 Dave.  
 
As for welding up the = current=20 space, I don't see how it would be possible.  The channels = are so=20 narrow, that my tig torch barely fits inside.  How about = some other=20 metal?  Is there something along the lines of a brazing = alloy=20 that would melt at a substantially lower temp than aluminum, so I = could just=20 heat the entire manifold with a torch, and pool the molten alloy = inside=20 the runner?  
 
Thanks for any = comments. =20 I've got to get moving on this intake in the next couple days, since = I'm=20 burning vacation time to make this=20 happen.  
 
Cheers,
Rusty (off to the = hanger for some=20 inspiration) 
 
Yes, there is a brazing alloy that will = melt with a=20 torch. I have some. I purchased it at Sun-N-Fun.  You can use it = to=20 repair aluminum radiators, etc.  All you need to do is heat the = receiving=20 item with a propane torch. It does NOT need to be heated until it = turns=20 red. 
      As far as = the welding=20 is concerened, I was talking about stick welding.  Would the 1/8 = inch=20 stick not be able to make it in = there?
     Paul=20 Conner


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