X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-wy0-f180.google.com ([74.125.82.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2k) with ESMTPS id 4862083 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:04:23 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.82.180; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by wyb28 with SMTP id 28so2704879wyb.25 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:03:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aTBaHa+qqHFWW1QRbzF0lvJjjzpInuZcrMejGLdxnBY=; b=BHPAqr602/axgjg88w72tXHgXZ+zm1xJyv2Cuis5cx34OHXjF7E2rWZTNChOfzEGym ZR9tE3vFxQuFL/hDUYgCT3gRf2Nru3QFZ24LOh7+Gk2Z/BWRYLj83Ka5CsKX3ddDyoxi g/DLohmTLMuNpUSVVmOpRcXZ60pDXLWh2k5KM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NGghl0Gfe5YbsTAXzNVYis1blMylTQJb4SM+OiUB0PZ95f1ZLfjgopoeWFWssWerr0 zKcZ9uKVWq31fqCYOYDAyZLNRN8qO6XjZHlA5hFrgSzVDCIVryrVv4tf+MWpYCRN/A7P 52L6DjOwbty9JaSQDIWB9FQzRpgE+y6Znwbwo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.173.147 with SMTP id v19mr648453wel.102.1297440226224; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:03:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.61.200 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:03:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:03:46 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7ELC6Gt9f4GJeTPc2h6dX7YFpLw Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] EC2/ Tracy From: Tracy To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367b6440cd2d41049c03d78c --0016367b6440cd2d41049c03d78c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, if you decrease the Mode 3 value you will have to increase the map table values across the whole range to compensate. It's not automatic though, you will have to do it manually. Auto tune would eventually get it adjusted too but that assumes you run the engine at all possible settings for long enough for that to happen. That's why it pays to do Mode 3 first, Mode 2 second and Mode 1 (or 9) 3rd. Don't ask why I numbered the Modes in that order, I don't have a good answer other than Mode 1 was the one that would be used most often. Now Mode 9 is the most often used but Mode 9 didn't exist in the early days of the EC1/2/3. Last thing to do is auto tune for the fine tuning. Tracy On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:09 AM, wrote: > I didn't run out of injector setting range, but am very close. My edit pa= ge > bar graph is pretty much ony one or two lines high for most of the Map > table. I'm also down to values around -120 for most of the addresses. > I thought about setting mode 3 a bit lower.Iif so, and I then go back and > re-tune it to the aproximate fuel/air settings I have now, does it change > the bar graph and the values at each address? > > Say, for instance, MAP address 80 shows a setting of -118, and only one > line on the bar graph. If I lower the injector setting in mode 3 and re-t= une > to the same mixture setting, will the setting be higher than -118 and wil= l > the bar graph be higher? It would be nicer to be closer to the middle > values, rather then the bottom (-127) or top (+127), so I have more > adjustability in the future if I were to need it for some reason. Even > though it runs nicely now, i'm still up around 8 "o"s on the horizontal > mixture graph. > > Brian Trubee > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tracy > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:38 am > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Replaced Tension Bolt, Oil Seal, Thrust Bearing > ... back ... > > *turns out it was running really rich on the factory EC2 settings. I went > to auto tune and the injector settings went way down, all the way up and > down the map table. > * > Glad you got it running better Brian. When you run into the situation y= ou > mentioned above, the first thing you should do is adjust the Injector Flo= w > Rate (Mode 3). That will adjust the mixture at ALL throttle settings and= is > a lot easier than resetting the entire MAP Table. But as long as you don= 't > run out of range on the MAP Table adjustments, what you did will work OK. > > Tracy > > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:06 PM, wrote: > >> And on to brighter news. I went out today, did some tuning on my plane, >> turns out it was running really rich on the factory EC2 settings. I went= to >> auto tune and the injector settings went way down, all the way up and do= wn >> the map table. Had to do a little fine tuning, and especially at the sta= ging >> point, had to richen it up there, at bin # 84. I would have taken it up = for >> a flight, but had other appointments. It was a glorious day for flying, = but >> a test will have to wait for the next nice day here in Seattle.Previous >> flights went OK until just after takeoff, then the engine would surge an= d >> backfire, getting the attention of all witnesses within a mile or two. I= can >> imagine that they were all mentally formulating what they were going to = say >> to the FAA investigation team. I was starting to question my decision to= go >> rotary, but now have a renewed sense of confidence in the installation. >> >> Temperature today was around 50 degrees, even with extended running on t= he >> ground at full throttle, temps maxed out at 145 and148 for oil and cool= ant >> respectively. Throttling back to 16 inches of MP got the temps running >> around 125. Going to wait until summer to close up my cooling inlets a >> little. >> >> Brian Trubee >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bktrub@aol.com >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 4:50 pm >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Replaced Tension Bolt, Oil Seal, Thrust Bearing >> ... back ... >> >> Hmm, send money overseas for their oil so that we can increase our trad= e >> deficit and fund all sorts of socially constipated cultures who might be >> hostile to our own, or keep the money here and employ americans? That's = a >> real head scratcher there. I've got some of the mineral rights in the >> Bakken, due to some forward thinking ranch owning ancestors, so you can >> imagine what my feelings on this are. New Drilling Method Opens Vast >> U.S. Oil Fields >> Published February 10, 2011 >> | Associated Press >> A new drilling technique is opening up vast fields of previously >> out-of-reach oil in the western United States, helping reverse a two-dec= ade >> decline in domestic production of crude. >> Companies are investingbillions of dollars to get at oil deposits= scattered across North Dakota, >> Colorado, Texas and California. By 2015, oil executives and analysts say= , >> the new fields could yield as much as 2 million barrels of oil a day -- = more >> than the entire Gulf of Mexico produces now. >> This new drilling is expected to raise U.S. production by at least 20 >> percent over the next five years. And within 10 years, it could help red= uce >> oil importsby more than half, advancing a goal that has long elud= ed policymakers. >> "That's a significant contribution to energy security," says Ed Morse, >> head of commodities research at Credit Suisse. >> Oil engineers are applying what critics say is an environmentally >> questionable method developed in recent years to tap natural gas trapped= in >> underground shale. They drill down and horizontally into the rock, then >> pumpwater, sand and chemicals into the hole to crack the shale an= d allow gas to >> flow up. >> Because oil molecules are sticky and larger than gas molecules, engineer= s >> thought the process wouldn't work to squeeze oil out fast enough to make= it >> economical. But drillers learned how to increase the number of cracks in= the >> rock and use different chemicals to free up oil at low cost. "We've >> completely transformed the natural gas industry, and I wouldn't be surpr= ised >> if we transform the oil businessin the next few years too," says = Aubrey McClendon, chief executive of >> Chesapeake Energy, which is using the technique. >> Petroleum engineers first used the method in 2007 to unlock oil from a >> 25,000-square-mile formation under North Dakota and Montana known as the >> Bakken. Production there rose 50 percent in just the past year, to 458,0= 00 >> barrels a day, according to Bentek Energy, an energy analysis firm. >> It was first thought that the Bakken was unique. Then drillers tapped oi= l >> in a shale formation under South Texas called the Eagle Ford. Drilling >> permits in the region grew 11-fold last year. >> Now newer fields are showing promise, including the Niobrara, which >> stretches under Wyoming, Colorado, Nebraska and Kansas; the Leonard, in = New >> Mexico and Texas; and the Monterey, in California. >> "It's only been fleshed out over the last 12 months just how consequenti= al >> this can be," says Mark Papa, chief executive of EOG Resources, the comp= any >> that first used horizontal drilling to tap shale oil. "And there will be >> several additional plays that will come about in the next 12 to 18 month= s. >> We're not done yet." >> Environmentalists fear that fluids or wastewater from the process, calle= d >> hydraulic fracturing, could pollute drinking water supplies. The >> Environmental Protection Agency is now studying its safetyin shal= e drilling. The agency studied use of the process in shallower >> drilling operations in 2004 and found that it was safe. >> In the Bakken formation, production is rising so fast there is no space = in >> pipelines to bring the oil to market. Instead, it is being transported t= o >> refineries by rail and truck. Drilling companies have had to erect camps= to >> house workers. >> Unemployment in North Dakota has fallen to the lowest level in the natio= n, >> 3.8 percent -- less than half the national rate of 9 percent. The influx= of >> mostly male workers to the region has left local men lamenting a lack of >> women. Convenience stores are struggling to keep shelves stocked with fo= od. >> The Bakken and the Eagle Ford are each expected to ultimately produce 4 >> billion barrels of oil. That would make them the fifth- and sixth-bigges= t >> oil fields ever discovered in the United States. The top four are Prudho= e >> Bay in Alaska, Spraberry Trend in West Texas, the East Texas Oilfield an= d >> the Kuparuk Field in Alaska. >> The fields are attracting billions of dollars of investment from foreign >> oil giants like Royal Dutch Shell, BP and Norway's Statoil, and also fro= m >> the smaller U.S. drillers who developed the new techniques like Chesapea= ke, >> EOG Resources and Occidental Petroleum. >> Last month China's state-owned oil company CNOOC agreed to pay Chesapeak= e >> $570 million for a one-third stake in a drilling project in the Niobrara= . >> This followed a $1 billion deal in October between the two companies on = a >> project in the Eagle Ford. >> With oil prices high and natural-gas prices low, profit margins from >> producing oil from shale are much higher than for gas. Also, drilling fo= r >> shale oil is not dependent on high oil prices. Papa says this oil is che= aper >> to tap than the oil in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico or in Canad= a's >> oil sands. >> The country's shale oil resources aren't nearly as big as the country's >> shale gas resources. Drillers have unlocked decades' worth of natural ga= s, >> an abundance of supply that may keep prices low for years. U.S. shale oi= l on >> the other hand will only supply one to two percent of world consumption = by >> 2015, not nearly enough to affect prices. >> Still, a surge in production last year from the Bakken helped U.S. oil >> production grow for the second year in a row, after 23 years of decline. >> This during a year when drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, the nation's big= gest >> oil-producing region, was halted after the BP oil spill. >> U.S. oil production climbed steadily through most of the last century an= d >> reached a peak of 9.6 million barrels per day in 1970. The decline since= was >> slowed by new production in Alaska in the 1980s and in the Gulf of Mexic= o >> more recently. But by 2008, production had fallen to 5 million barrels p= er >> day. >> Within five years, analysts and executives predict, the newly unlocked >> fields are expected to produce 1 million to 2 million barrels of oil per >> day, enough to boost U.S. production 20 percent to 40 percent. The U.S. >> Energy Information Administration estimates production will grow a more >> modest 500,000 barrels per day. >> By 2020, oil imports could be slashed by as much as 60 percent, accordin= g >> to Credit Suisse's Morse, who is counting on Gulf oil production to rise= and >> on U.S. gasoline demand to fall. >> At today's oil prices of roughly $90 per barrel, slashing imports that >> much would save the U.S. $175 billion a year. Last year, when oil averag= ed >> $78 per barrel, the U.S. sent $260 billion overseas for crude, accountin= g >> for nearly half the country's $500 billion trade deficit. >> "We have redefined how to look for oil and gas," says Rehan Rashid, an >> analyst at FBR Capital Markets. "The implications are major for the nati= on." >> >> Read more: >> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/10/new-drilling-method-opens-vast-oil-= fields/#ixzz1DZa3M891 >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: hoursaway1@comcast.net >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 4:26 pm >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Replaced Tension Bolt, Oil Seal, Thrust Bearing >> ... back ... >> >> All this was said 40 years ago. """We will be out of oil in twenty >> years""" Coffee is bad for you""" now coffee is good for you & we have = more >> oil than anyone ever dreamed available + being used many times more >> efficiently, the """ones in the know ...do not know!!!! But they can >> predict the weather 50 years from now. David R. >> Cook RV6A Rotary -4 deg. F. Lansing MI. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Staten" >> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:15:02 AM >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Replaced Tension Bolt, Oil Seal, Thrust Bearing >> ... back ... >> >> Well, I can agree with Lynn for one thing.. Carter was 2nd worst preside= nt >> ever.... (After Bush 43)... :P >> >> Ethanol in fuel was never about efficiency. NEVER. It was about replacin= g >> a very toxic oxygenate (MTBE) with something cleaner burning and less to= xic. >> Lead in aviation fuel will go the same way.. its inevitable. One plant m= akes >> the lead that goes in it. They go tits up and the 25 percent of the avia= tion >> fleet that burns 75 percent of the leaded avgas will be knee-capped >> brutally. >> >> Biofuel is not exclusively ethanol. Its also HYDROCARBONS synthesized or >> processed from living matter, as opposed to fossil fuels naturally devel= oped >> from long dead matter. Its bacteria in a digester/reactor with a feedsto= ck >> and a product stream. Ethanol is in cars to reduce smog.. nothing more. >> Biofuels in aircraft do not necessarily have to include ethanol (but it >> could). >> >> Ifwe dont start doing more than paying lip service to preserving our >> environment, we will have the worlds best military protecting the worlds >> largest ecological wasteland. >> >> As long as we are overly dependent on fossil fuels, we will be subject t= o >> the foreign policy of others. Biofuels, Nuclear, Solar, Wind, >> Hydroelectric... all things that need to be developed further. And if we >> wait until its too late to transition, our worlds best military will be >> reduced to throwing rocks and writing nasty letters, because our turbine >> powered planes and tanks dont run on good intentions. >> >> Personally... if we have to burn oil... Why burn mine (ours) when I can >> burn yours (theirs).. >> >> I'm not hardly a hairy, stoned, tree hugging hippie, but I do recognize >> their point.. >> >> Dave >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:24 PM, wrote: >> >>> Lynn for President,,,,,,,,,,( might be in central FL this winter, will >>> contact, stop & say hi ) David R. Cook RV6A Rotary. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Lehanover@aol.com >>> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:39:57 PM >>> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Replaced Tension Bolt, Oil Seal, Thrust Bearin= g >>> ... back ... >>> >>> In a message dated 2/9/2011 12:02:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>> jwhaley@datacast.com writes: >>> >>> Interesting enough, though the scary part is there=92s no mention in th= e >>> text of AVGAS or GAS =85 only the subject uses the term AVGAS. >>> The text body uses the terms =93unleaded, sustainable general aviation >>> fuel, credible renewable, unleaded fuel, 'green' fuel and the exclusive >>> use of biofuel in air show performances." I fear this is another >>> attempt to push ETHANOL or heavy ethanol-blended fuel. >>> Jeff >>> >>> If you take away government subsidies from the green fuel tree hugger >>> play. Gasohol would be gone in a month. It takes almost a gallon of fue= l to >>> produce a gallon of gasohol. You have to boil it. It is made just like = Jack >>> Danials. >>> >>> It is the biggest victory of form over function ever imagined by mankin= d. >>> >>> The farmers love it because they save money as the kernel quality is >>> lower, and the water content is higher, and they get government money. = The >>> government pays the oil companies to use it. The oil companies get to >>> displace actual gasoline with the crap for even more profits, and the u= ser >>> pays all of them extra in taxes so you can get 30% less mileage and >>> performance. But wait...........there's more.........Plus the better co= rn >>> not now being grown for feed stock plastics and human consumption has >>> boosted the price of that corn. So the farmer profits again. The beef m= an >>> looses his a__, and you pay even higher beef, pork and poultry prices i= n >>> addition the taxes that support this house of cards. When beef prices g= et >>> high enough, dairy herds are thinned at higher rates (younger) and milk >>> production drops. Milk prices go up. >>> >>> What to do? >>> >>> Send the entire energy department home. Established in 75 to eliminate >>> our dependence on offshore oil. >>> >>> Eliminate all farm subsidies. Phase out oil imports to zero over the ne= xt >>> 7 years. Drill here. Drill now. >>> >>> We can be cut off at the knees and turned into a 3rd world country by t= he >>> towel heads who hate us. If you don't remember the oil crisis of 74 und= er >>> the (Now) second worst president in this country's history, Jimmy Carte= r, >>> Look it up. Long lines on odd license number days, or even license numb= er >>> days for 10 gallons of fuel. >>> >>> The worlds strongest military reduced to writing nasty letters????? >>> >>> If the tree huggers want to live in mud huts, smoke dope, and use gasoh= ol >>> let them pay for it with their money not mine. >>> >>> Look up Bakken oil formation. >>> >>> Lynn E. Hanover >>> >> >> > --0016367b6440cd2d41049c03d78c Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0Yes, if you decrease the Mode 3 value you will have to increase the map = table values across the whole range to compensate.=A0 It's not automati= c though, you will have to do it manually.=A0 Auto tune would eventually ge= t it adjusted too but that assumes you run the engine at all possible setti= ngs for long enough for that to happen.=A0 That's why it pays to do Mod= e 3 first, Mode 2 second and Mode 1 (or 9) 3rd.=A0 Don't ask why I numb= ered the Modes in that order, I don't have a good answer other than Mod= e 1 was the one that would be used most often.=A0 Now Mode 9 is the most of= ten used but Mode 9 didn't exist in the early days of the EC1/2/3.=A0 <= br>
Last thing to do is auto tune for the fine tuning.=A0

Tracy
=

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:09 AM, <bktrub@aol.com> wrote:
I didn't run out of in= jector setting range, but am very close.=A0My edit page bar=A0graph is pret= ty much ony=A0one or two=A0lines high for most of the Map table. I'm al= so down to values around -120 for most of the addresses. I=A0thought about = setting mode 3 a bit lower.Iif so, and I then go back and re-tune it to the= aproximate fuel/air settings I have now, does it change the bar graph and = the values at each address?
=A0
Say, for instance, MAP address 80=A0shows a setting of -118, and only = one line on the bar graph. If I lower the injector setting in mode 3 and re= -tune to the same mixture setting, will the setting be higher than -118 and= will the bar graph be higher? It would be nicer to be closer to the middle= values, rather then the bottom (-127) or top (+127), so I have more adjust= ability in the future if I were to need it for some reason. Even though it = runs nicely now, i'm still up around 8 "o"s on the horizontal= mixture graph.
=A0
Brian Trubee


-----Original Message-----
From: Tracy <tracy@rotaryaviation.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:38 am
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Replaced Tension Bolt, Oil Seal, Thrust Bearing ..= . back ...

turns out it was running really rich on the factor= y EC2 settings. I went to auto tune and the injector settings went way down= , all the way up and down the map table.

Glad you got it running better Brian.=A0=A0 When you run into the situation= you mentioned above, the first thing you should do is adjust the Injector = Flow Rate (Mode 3).=A0 That will adjust the mixture at ALL throttle setting= s and is a lot easier than resetting the entire MAP Table.=A0 But as long a= s you don't run out of range on the MAP Table adjustments, what you did= will work OK.

Tracy


On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:06 PM, <bktrub@aol.com> wrote:
And on to brighter news. I= went out today, did some tuning on my plane, turns out it was running real= ly rich on the factory EC2 settings. I went to auto tune and the injector s= ettings went way down, all the way up and down the map table. Had to do a l= ittle fine tuning, and especially at the staging point, had to richen it up= there, at bin # 84. I would have taken it up for a flight, but had other a= ppointments. It was a glorious day for flying,=A0but a test will have to wa= it for the next nice day here in Seattle.Previous flights went OK until jus= t after takeoff, then the engine would surge and backfire, getting the atte= ntion of all witnesses within a mile or two. I can imagine that they were a= ll mentally formulating what they were going to say to the FAA investigatio= n team. I was starting to question my decision to go rotary, but now have a= renewed sense of confidence in the installation.
=A0
Temperature today was around 50 degrees, even with extended running on= the ground at full throttle, temps maxed out at=A0 145 and148 for oil and = coolant respectively. Throttling back to 16 inches of MP got the temps runn= ing around 125. Going to wait until summer to close up my cooling inlets a = little.
=A0
Brian Trubee



Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 4:50 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Replaced Tension Bolt, Oil Seal, Thrust Bearing ..= . back ...

Hmm, send money overseas for their oil so that we can = increase our trade deficit and fund all sorts of=A0socially constipated=A0c= ultures who might be hostile to our own, or keep the money here and employ = americans? That's a real head scratcher there. I've got some of the= mineral rights in the Bakken, due to some forward thinking ranch owning an= cestors, so you can imagine what my feelings on this are.

=A0

New Drilling Method Opens Vast U.S. Oil Fields

Published February 10, 2011
| Associated Press
A new drilling technique is opening up vast= fields of previously out-of-reach oil in the western United States, helpin= g reverse a two-decade decline in domestic production of crude.
Companies are investing billions of doll= ars to get at oil deposits scattered across North Dakota, Colorado, Texas a= nd California. By 2015, oil executives and analysts say, the new fields cou= ld yield as much as 2 million barrels of oil a day -- more than the entire = Gulf of Mexico produces now.
This new drilling is expected to raise U.S.= production by at least 20 percent over the next five years. And within 10 = years, it could help reduce oil imports by more than half, advancing a g= oal that has long eluded policymakers.
"That's a significant contribution= to energy security," says Ed Morse, head of commodities research at C= redit Suisse.
Oil engineers are applying what critics say= is an environmentally questionable method developed in recent years to tap= natural gas trapped in underground shale. They drill down and horizontally= into the rock, then pump water, sand and chemicals into the hole to cra= ck the shale and allow gas to flow up.
Because oil molecules are sticky and larger= than gas molecules, engineers thought the process wouldn't work to squ= eeze oil out fast enough to make it economical. But drillers learned how to= increase the number of cracks in the rock and use different chemicals to f= ree up oil at low cost. "We've completely transformed the natural = gas industry, and I wouldn't be surprised if we transform the oil business in the= next few years too," says Aubrey McClendon, chief executive of Chesap= eake Energy, which is using the technique.
Petroleum engineers first used the method i= n 2007 to unlock oil from a 25,000-square-mile formation under North Dakota= and Montana known as the Bakken. Production there rose 50 percent in just = the past year, to 458,000 barrels a day, according to Bentek Energy, an ene= rgy analysis firm.
It was first thought that the Bakken was un= ique. Then drillers tapped oil in a shale formation under South Texas calle= d the Eagle Ford. Drilling permits in the region grew 11-fold last year.
Now newer fields are showing promise, inclu= ding the Niobrara, which stretches under Wyoming, Colorado, Nebraska and Ka= nsas; the Leonard, in New Mexico and Texas; and the Monterey, in California= .
"It's only been fleshed out over t= he last 12 months just how consequential this can be," says Mark Papa,= chief executive of EOG Resources, the company that first used horizontal d= rilling to tap shale oil. "And there will be several additional plays = that will come about in the next 12 to 18 months. We're not done yet.&q= uot;
Environmentalists fear that fluids or waste= water from the process, called hydraulic fracturing, could pollute drinking= water supplies. The Environmental Protection Agency is now studying its safety in shale drilling. The agency studied use of the process in shallow= er drilling operations in 2004 and found that it was safe.
In the Bakken formation, production is risi= ng so fast there is no space in pipelines to bring the oil to market. Inste= ad, it is being transported to refineries by rail and truck. Drilling compa= nies have had to erect camps to house workers.
Unemployment in North Dakota has fallen to = the lowest level in the nation, 3.8 percent -- less than half the national = rate of 9 percent. The influx of mostly male workers to the region has left= local men lamenting a lack of women. Convenience stores are struggling to = keep shelves stocked with food.
The Bakken and the Eagle Ford are each expe= cted to ultimately produce 4 billion barrels of oil. That would make them t= he fifth- and sixth-biggest oil fields ever discovered in the United States= . The top four are Prudhoe Bay in Alaska, Spraberry Trend in West Texas, th= e East Texas Oilfield and the Kuparuk Field in Alaska.
The fields are attracting billions of dolla= rs of investment from foreign oil giants like Royal Dutch Shell, BP and Nor= way's Statoil, and also from the smaller U.S. drillers who developed th= e new techniques like Chesapeake, EOG Resources and Occidental Petroleum.
Last month China's state-owned oil comp= any CNOOC agreed to pay Chesapeake $570 million for a one-third stake in a = drilling project in the Niobrara. This followed a $1 billion deal in Octobe= r between the two companies on a project in the Eagle Ford.
With oil prices high and natural-gas prices= low, profit margins from producing oil from shale are much higher than for= gas. Also, drilling for shale oil is not dependent on high oil prices. Pap= a says this oil is cheaper to tap than the oil in the deep waters of the Gu= lf of Mexico or in Canada's oil sands.
The country's shale oil resources aren&= #39;t nearly as big as the country's shale gas resources. Drillers have= unlocked decades' worth of natural gas, an abundance of supply that ma= y keep prices low for years. U.S. shale oil on the other hand will only sup= ply one to two percent of world consumption by 2015, not nearly enough to a= ffect prices.
Still, a surge in production last year from= the Bakken helped U.S. oil production grow for the second year in a row, a= fter 23 years of decline. This during a year when drilling in the Gulf of M= exico, the nation's biggest oil-producing region, was halted after the = BP oil spill.
U.S. oil production climbed steadily throug= h most of the last century and reached a peak of 9.6 million barrels per da= y in 1970. The decline since was slowed by new production in Alaska in the = 1980s and in the Gulf of Mexico more recently. But by 2008, production had = fallen to 5 million barrels per day.
Within five years, analysts and executives = predict, the newly unlocked fields are expected to produce 1 million to 2 m= illion barrels of oil per day, enough to boost U.S. production 20 percent t= o 40 percent. The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimates producti= on will grow a more modest 500,000 barrels per day.
By 2020, oil imports could be slashed by as= much as 60 percent, according to Credit Suisse's Morse, who is countin= g on Gulf oil production to rise and on U.S. gasoline demand to fall.
At today's oil prices of roughly $90 pe= r barrel, slashing imports that much would save the U.S. $175 billion a yea= r. Last year, when oil averaged $78 per barrel, the U.S. sent $260 billion = overseas for crude, accounting for nearly half the country's $500 billi= on trade deficit.
"We have redefined how to look for oil= and gas," says Rehan Rashid, an analyst at FBR Capital Markets. "= ;The implications are major for the nation."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/10/new-drilling-method= -opens-vast-oil-fields/#ixzz1DZa3M891




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From: hoursaway= 1@comcast.net
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 4:26 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Replaced Tension Bolt, Oil Seal, Thrust Bearing ..= . back ...

Al= l this was said=A040 years ago.=A0 =A0"""We will be out of o= il in twenty years"""=A0 Coffee is bad for you""&q= uot; now coffee is good for you & we have more oil than anyone ever dre= amed available + being used many times more efficiently,=A0 the ""= ;"ones in the know ...do not know!!!!=A0=A0But they can predict the we= ather 50 years from now.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0David R. Cook=A0=A0 RV6A=A0 Rotary=A0 -4 deg. F. Lansing= MI.
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From: "David Staten" <david.staten@gmail.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:15:02 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Replaced Tension Bolt, Oil Seal, Thrust Bearing ..= . back ...

Well, I can agree with Lynn for one thing.. Carter was 2nd worst presi= dent ever.... (After Bush 43)...=A0 :P
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Ethanol in fuel was never about efficiency. NEVER. It was about replac= ing a very toxic oxygenate (MTBE) with something cleaner burning and less t= oxic. Lead in aviation fuel will go the same way.. its inevitable. One plan= t makes the lead that goes in=A0it. They go tits up and the 25 percent of t= he aviation fleet that burns 75 percent of the leaded avgas will be knee-ca= pped brutally.
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Biofuel is not exclusively ethanol. Its also HYDROCARBONS synthesized = or processed from living matter, as opposed to fossil fuels naturally devel= oped from long dead matter. Its bacteria in a digester/reactor with a feeds= tock and a product stream. Ethanol is in cars to reduce smog.. nothing more= . Biofuels in aircraft do not necessarily have to include ethanol (but it c= ould).
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Ifwe dont start doing more than paying lip service to preserving our e= nvironment, we will have the worlds best military protecting the worlds lar= gest ecological wasteland.
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As long as we are overly=A0dependent on fossil fuels, we will be subje= ct to the foreign policy of others. Biofuels, Nuclear, Solar, Wind, Hydroel= ectric... all things that need to be developed further. And if we wait unti= l its too late to transition, our worlds best military will be reduced to t= hrowing rocks and writing nasty letters, because our turbine powered planes= and tanks dont run on good intentions.

Personally... if we have to burn oil... Why burn mine (ours)=A0when I can b= urn yours (theirs)..
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I'm not hardly a hairy, stoned, tree hugging hippie, but I do reco= gnize their point..
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Dave
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On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:24 PM, <hoursaway= 1@comcast.net> wrote:
Ly= nn for President,,,,,,,,,,( might be in central FL this winter, will contac= t, stop & say hi )=A0=A0 David R. Cook=A0 RV6A=A0=A0 Rotary.
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From: Lehanover@aol.= com
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:39:57 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Replaced Tension Bolt, Oil Seal, Thrust Bearing ..= . back ...

If you take away government subsidies from the green fuel tree hugger = play. Gasohol would be gone in a month. It takes almost a gallon of fuel to= produce a gallon of gasohol. You have to boil it. It is made just like Jac= k Danials.
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It is the biggest victory of form over function ever imagined by manki= nd.
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The farmers love it because they save money as the kernel quality is l= ower, and the water content is higher, and they get government money. The g= overnment pays the oil companies to use it. The oil companies get to displa= ce actual gasoline with the crap for even more profits, and the user pays a= ll of them extra in taxes so you can get 30% less mileage and performance. = But wait...........there's more.........Plus the better corn not now be= ing grown for feed stock plastics and human consumption has boosted the pri= ce of that corn. So the farmer profits again. The beef man looses his a__, = and you pay even higher beef, pork and poultry prices in addition the taxes= that support this house of cards. When beef prices get high enough, dairy = herds are thinned at higher rates (younger) and milk production drops. Milk= prices go up.
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What to do?=A0
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Send the entire energy department home. Established in 75 to eliminate= our dependence on offshore oil.
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Eliminate all farm subsidies. Phase out oil imports to zero over the n= ext 7 years. Drill here. Drill now.
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We can be cut off at the knees and turned into a 3rd world country by = the towel heads who hate us. If you don't remember the oil crisis of 74= under the (Now) second worst president in this country's history, Jimm= y Carter, Look it up. Long lines on odd license number days, or even licens= e number days for 10 gallons of fuel.
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The worlds strongest military reduced to writing nasty letters?????=A0=
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If the tree huggers want to live in mud huts, smoke dope, and use gaso= hol let them pay for it with their money not mine.
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Look up Bakken oil formation.
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Lynn E. Hanover=A0



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