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Well this has gone rather far afield from tension bolt replacement, but I must comment. The entire idea of oxygenating fuels was an idiotic, eco-twit, no science needed idea. The only vehicles which may show a small improvement in emissions using oxygenated fuel are 20+ year old carbureted engines. All late model engines with O2 sensors control their own mixture and all the Ethanol or MTBE fuels do is show unburned O2 in the tailpipe which results in a richer mixture and lower mileage. (Usually about 1-11/2 MPG reduction) The MTBE fiasco was pushed through in California with the blessing of the Sierra Club one of the supposedly most aggressive eco watchdog's blessing. Please save me from the feel good, junk science, eco nuts. My point is that they do more harm than good, and I DO CARE about the planet, I live here!
Bill Jepson
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From: David Staten <david.staten@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, Feb 9, 2011 11:15 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Replaced Tension Bolt, Oil Seal, Thrust Bearing ... back ...
Well, I can agree with Lynn for one thing.. Carter was 2nd worst president ever.... (After Bush 43)... :P
Ethanol in fuel was never about efficiency. NEVER. It was about replacing a very toxic oxygenate (MTBE) with something cleaner burning and less toxic. Lead in aviation fuel will go the same way.. its inevitable. One plant makes the lead that goes in it. They go tits up and the 25 percent of the aviation fleet that burns 75 percent of the leaded avgas will be knee-capped brutally.
Biofuel is not exclusively ethanol. Its also HYDROCARBONS synthesized or processed from living matter, as opposed to fossil fuels naturally developed from long dead matter. Its bacteria in a digester/reactor with a feedstock and a product stream. Ethanol is in cars to reduce smog.. nothing more. Biofuels in aircraft do not necessarily have to include ethanol (but it could).
Ifwe dont start doing more than paying lip service to preserving our environment, we will have the worlds best military protecting the worlds largest ecological wasteland.
As long as we are overly dependent on fossil fuels, we will be subject to the foreign policy of others. Biofuels, Nuclear, Solar, Wind, Hydroelectric... all things that need to be developed further. And if we wait until its too late to transition, our worlds best military will be reduced to throwing rocks and writing nasty letters, because our turbine powered planes and tanks dont run on good intentions.
Personally... if we have to burn oil... Why burn mine (ours) when I can burn yours (theirs)..
I'm not hardly a hairy, stoned, tree hugging hippie, but I do recognize their point..
Dave
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:24 PM, <hoursaway1@comcast.net> wrote:
Lynn for President,,,,,,,,,,( might be in central FL this winter, will contact, stop & say hi ) David R. Cook RV6A Rotary.
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From: Lehanover@aol.com
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:39:57 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Replaced Tension Bolt, Oil Seal, Thrust Bearing ... back ...
In a message dated 2/9/2011 12:02:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jwhaley@datacast.com writes:
Interesting enough, though the scary part is there’s no mention in the text of AVGAS or GAS … only the subject uses the term AVGAS.
The text body uses the terms “unleaded, sustainable general aviation fuel, credible renewable, unleaded fuel, 'green' fuel and the exclusive use of biofuel in air show performances." I fear this is another attempt to push ETHANOL or heavy ethanol-blended fuel.
Jeff
If you take away government subsidies from the green fuel tree hugger play. Gasohol would be gone in a month. It takes almost a gallon of fuel to produce a gallon of gasohol. You have to boil it. It is made just like Jack Danials.
It is the biggest victory of form over function ever imagined by mankind.
The farmers love it because they save money as the kernel quality is lower, and the water content is higher, and they get government money. The government pays the oil companies to use it. The oil companies get to displace actual gasoline with the crap for even more profits, and the user pays all of them extra in taxes so you can get 30% less mileage and performance. But wait...........there's more.........Plus the better corn not now being grown for feed stock plastics and human consumption has boosted the price of that corn. So the farmer profits again. The beef man looses his a__, and you pay even higher beef, pork and poultry prices in addition the taxes that support this house of cards. When beef prices get high enough, dairy herds are thinned at higher rates (younger) and milk production drops. Milk prices go up.
What to do?
Send the entire energy department home. Established in 75 to eliminate our dependence on offshore oil.
Eliminate all farm subsidies. Phase out oil imports to zero over the next 7 years. Drill here. Drill now.
We can be cut off at the knees and turned into a 3rd world country by the towel heads who hate us. If you don't remember the oil crisis of 74 under the (Now) second worst president in this country's history, Jimmy Carter, Look it up. Long lines on odd license number days, or even license number days for 10 gallons of fuel.
The worlds strongest military reduced to writing nasty letters?????
If the tree huggers want to live in mud huts, smoke dope, and use gasohol let them pay for it with their money not mine.
Look up Bakken oil formation.
Lynn E. Hanover
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