X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-ew0-f44.google.com ([209.85.215.44] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.11) with ESMTP id 4635905 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 19:48:45 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.44; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by ewy8 with SMTP id 8so2268936ewy.31 for ; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:48:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+X5h4BBGf7SCPu9ZxAKtcGslQIqdg6vG8WeH3b0wV7A=; b=sXYdrJf6cAzmsMsQRfpVtWmj2SeQMTkEtqj9YeU2kdCp6lwt1UxwaSzn9bfRJ9pr9J AsGKaXLPi9gv7Q4Zw0FC7P+y88t8V7ytVk0d156OmBohA3vOB81CQvQcB0UTagZgc8+q ko0rMREyj0sL867ALjgdHKscYfdxVQNu6D7ag= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=idaHxtYIhNPbSncxxxyX7r/MMKEpWv8YROMFephMxvj4YCrFJOpC157peD3tBnmfXZ CQy0GSZIF0HGpn+U8uykanLoA4ssD1NgulQplcxijSrfkbrzfBC3u6Kvv+sZRhdrQFtH kEUoUWiFzCTdi0ZG4GVvmBHt2jg0K1lue1pPs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.9.84 with SMTP id k20mr154144ebk.23.1291942087922; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.21.146 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Dec 2010 16:48:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 18:48:07 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Source for 18mm x 2.0 Bolt From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3b503893c6049703b5c6 --0015174c3b503893c6049703b5c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, but welding on the housing could warp it rendering it junk. We don't want to risk it. We're moving forward on having a bolt made. Mark On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Bill Bradburry wrote: > Can it be welded up, redrilled, and retapped? > > > > Bill B > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *On > Behalf Of *Ed Anderson > *Sent:* Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:29 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Source for 18mm x 2.0 Bolt > > > > Ah, I had missed the part about already tapping the hole with the 18x2.0. > Yes, that sort of puts you needing a 18x2.0 bolt. > > > > Ed > > > > *From:* Mark Steitle > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:37 AM > > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Source for 18mm x 2.0 Bolt > > > > Ed, > > > > I totally agree, except were you don't have much other choice, like when > plugging the heater port. There isn't enough material to drill & tap to a > common size. The 18mm was a good fit, and would have worked out great if we > had used a more common pitch, like 1.5. Who would have known that they make > taps for non-existent bolt sizes. > > > > Mark > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Ed Anderson > wrote: > > I would avoid the "have it made route" if possible. If for some reason you > ever needed a replacement, you'd have to have it made again. Although, I > must admit, I can't imagine what would ruin an 18x2.0 bolt that wouldn't > trash the engine - but you never know {:>). > > > > I try to stick with easily available standard sizes if at all possible for > just about anything on the aircraft - so I can run down to local Auto store > when away from home and get the part if needed. > > > > Ed > > > > *From:* Mark Steitle > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 09, 2010 6:35 AM > > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Source for 18mm x 2.0 Bolt > > > > From the responses received on this it looks like the best route is to go > see the machinist and have one made. Oh, and throw the 18mm x 2.0 tap in > the trash. > > > > Mark > > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Dave wrote: > > Bought something bigger, cut it down... filed the threads into a taper at > the tip and played with it carefully so it didnt cross thread. Thats what I > did with our first attempt at a block, when we put an aluminum adapter on > the oil pump pad for oil return and PSRU feed. > > Later gen used the stock oil return fitting with an AN adapter on it. > > On 12/8/2010 3:40 PM, Mark Steitle wrote: > > Kelly, > > > > Short story is that this is the tap size I had handy that fit the hole. > We're trying to plug the heater port on the rear housing. Who would have > thought that an 18mm x 2.0 would be an oddball size! We found a place that > sells 18mm x 2.0 nuts, but they tell us that nobody makes an 18 x 2.0 bolt. > That seems hard to believe. > > > > Mark > > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: > > Mark, > > Try the link below.............What in the world is it for > !!.................There may be other sources but > > > > this is the first one I found................. > > > http://www.fullermetric.com/products/hex/din933_931-8.8hex_head_cap_screw.html#14-20 > > > > Kelly Troyer > *"DYKE DELTA JD2"** **(Eventually)* > > "13B ROTARY"_ Engine > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold > > "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Richard Sohn > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Wed, December 8, 2010 2:57:49 PM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Source for 18mm x 2.0 Bolt > > You will have a hard time for that. M18 x 2.5 is standard and first choice > fine is 18 x 1.5 . You may have to get it made. > > > > Richard Sohn > N2071U > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Mark Steitle > > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 08, 2010 1:49 PM > > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Source for 18mm x 2.0 Bolt > > > > Anyone know where I can purchase an 18mm x 2.0 bolt? > > > > > > > > > --0015174c3b503893c6049703b5c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, but welding on the housing could warp it rendering it junk. =A0We don&= #39;t want to risk it. =A0We're moving forward on having a bolt made. = =A0

Mark

On Thu, Dec 9= , 2010 at 5:15 PM, Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Can it be welded u= p, redrilled, and retapped?

=A0<= /p>

Bill B

=A0<= /p>

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:fl= yrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson
Sent: Thursday, December 09,= 2010 10:29 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Sou= rce for 18mm x 2.0 Bolt

=A0

Ah, I had missed the part about already tapp= ing the hole with the 18x2.0.=A0 Yes, that sort of puts you needing a 18x2.0 bolt.

=A0

Ed

=A0

From: Mark Steitle

Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:37 AM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Source for 18mm x 2.0 Bolt

=A0

Ed,=A0

=A0

I totally agree, except were you don't have much= other choice, like when plugging the heater port. =A0There isn't enough material to drill = & tap to a common size. =A0The 18mm was a good fit, and would have worked out great if we had used a more common pitch, like 1.5. =A0Who would have known that they make taps for non-existent bolt sizes.

=A0

Mark

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@caroli= na.rr.com> wrote:

I would avoid the "have it made route&q= uot; if possible.=A0 If for some reason you ever needed a replacement, you'd ha= ve to have it made again.=A0 Although, I must admit, I can't imagine what wou= ld ruin an 18x2.0 bolt that wouldn't trash the engine - but you never know {:>).

=A0

I try to stick with easily available standar= d sizes if at all possible for just about anything on the aircraft - so I can run down to local Auto store when away from home and get the part if needed.

=A0

Ed

=A0

From: Mark Steitle

Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 6:35 AM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Source for 18mm x 2.0 Bolt

=A0

From the responses received on this it looks like th= e best route is to go see the machinist and have one made. =A0Oh, and throw the 18mm x 2.0 tap in the trash. =A0

=A0

Mark

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Dave <david.staten@gmail.com= > wrote:

Bought something bigger, cut it down... filed the th= reads into a taper at the tip and played with it carefully so it didnt cross thread. Thats wha= t I did with our first attempt at a block, when we put an aluminum adapter on t= he oil pump pad for oil return and PSRU feed.

Later gen used the stock oil return fitting with an AN adapter on it.

On 12/8/2010 3:40 PM, Mark Steitle wrote:

Kelly,=A0

=A0

Short story is that this is the tap size I had handy= that fit the hole.=A0 We're trying to plug the=A0heater port on the rear housing.=A0 Who would=A0have thought=A0that an=A018mm x 2.0=A0would be=A0an oddball size!=A0 We found a place that sells 18mm x 2.0 nuts, but they tell us that nobody=A0makes an 18 x 2.0 bolt.=A0 That seems=A0hard to believe.=A0 =A0=A0

=A0

Mark=A0

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> wro= te:

Mark,

=A0=A0 Try the link below.............What i= n the world is it for !!.................There may be other sources but

=A0

this is the first one I found...............= ..

=A0

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)<= /b><= /font>

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

=A0

=A0

From: Richard Sohn <res12@fai= rpoint.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 2:57:49 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Sou= rce for 18mm x 2.0 Bolt

You will have a hard time for that. M18 x 2.= 5 is standard and first choice fine is 18 x 1.5 . You may have to get it made.

=A0

Richard Sohn
N2071U

----- Original Message ----- <= /p>

From: Mark Steitle

Sent:<= font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> Wednesday, December 08, 2010 1:49 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Source for 18mm x 2.0 Bolt

=A0

Anyone know where I can purchase an 18mm x 2.0 bolt?= =A0

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