X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-iw0-f180.google.com ([209.85.214.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with ESMTP id 4588770 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 19:13:11 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.214.180; envelope-from=wdleonard@gmail.com Received: by iwn37 with SMTP id 37so9631443iwn.25 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:12:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=T72shsQSEgiUg3mCBa3gsvZ8x6DQKR+lqaEN43Yuxpc=; b=Hnu0FLn0IND58TJ+sj29DzLpzP9vV9q7lLitFYGKpUFpSx5aGz3TONWoeRXSScVoNz DOUqiB/6+Fp0vb8xN/rNwglqnGCjSdgluB82ptcjnaObA4nmdt/3T0xa5pcKj3gMaPzq oELDGoqi5AkoC8ehw3yLjYzbnhjIpXfUlD0qc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wdlDuzdvG20D1LIsWmYZWruCf1BYQods+aVdjvPLkOll7Sxs/1Qcl6gSjAdn1JE54p 2ZewObDWWNT0rglRwg2fdsCmFmeJa1BJbD6KhUW82Gvmld18IjfruMU32uWMcRhNbECc cXi2NWWiMbMiMzlI0wKkv8Dp5YjaWNasXxRfU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.31.1 with SMTP id w1mr7536722ibc.7.1290471155652; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:12:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.166.4 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:12:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:12:35 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20 From: David Leonard To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022152d6d8dd35d6e0495ad3a34 --0022152d6d8dd35d6e0495ad3a34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bill, I have one of the early aquare boxes, at that time I did have to request a special tubo model. So Tracy must have changed it after you bought yours. Dave Leonard On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Bill Bradburry wrote: > Tracy, > > Not that I need or want to waste bins with unused manifold pressures, but > is that something that you program into the EC-2 if it is going to be used > with a turbo? My unit is the rectangular one bought in Oct 2005, and > upgraded in Oct 2007. it only goes up to 41.8 inches of pressure in the top > bin.??? > > > > Bill B > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *On > Behalf Of *Tracy > *Sent:* Monday, November 22, 2010 11:05 AM > > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20 > > > > All EC2/3s in the rectangular box (past 8 years or so) use 2 BAR MAP > sensors which work up to 60" Hg MP. > > Tracy > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Kelly Troyer wrote: > > My EC2 "MAP" sensors are for boosted use ( I presume MAP sensors are > different for > > boosted use )...............I have seen what MP it is good for but cannot > recall the number off > > the top of my head !!..............Tracy ??.........Help !! > > > > Kelly Troyer > *"DYKE DELTA JD2"** **(Eventually)* > > "13B ROTARY"_ Engine > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold > > "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Bill Bradburry > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Mon, November 22, 2010 9:24:26 AM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20 > > Dave, > > The top bin, +127, on my EC-2 is 41.8 inches of manifold pressure. Does > yours go higher? > > I just figured that Tracy had something in mind when he set those limits. > What does the EC-2 do when you go outside its limits? Does it keep > everything the same as the last time it saw an instruction? > > I have no intention of boosting my setup and I am roughly at sea level, (55 > Ft ), so with ram air, I might be able to see 31 inches. The rest I will > never use. > > > > You are welcome to borrow them if you like. :>) > > > > Bill B > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *On > Behalf Of *David Leonard > *Sent:* Monday, November 22, 2010 9:25 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20 > > > > > > > > I have no knowledge of boosted rotary engines. It is a fad. It will go > away. > > > > Lynn E. Hanover > > > LOL, I have no knowledge either. But that is a different matter. > > > > Thanks for the detailed reply, as expected, only I can choose my level of > boost and no one has the magic number of when I will run into problems with > detonation. And who am I kidding by trying to push the limit. Inching up > the power... If 45 inches is no problem, then 46" is going to be OK... > > > > Unfortunately, having "a problem" will mean an engine re-build if not > another landing on a road. So I must set an arbitrary limit and stick to > it.... > > (drone voice of Homer Simpson): Eight Hundred horse power.. > > .. No, stick to the boost limit.... > > ...Eight Hundred horse power... > > .. This is an airplane, we are not safely on the ground... > > ..Eight Hundred horse power... > > .. Stay away from the light, do not go into the light! > > > > 45 inches MAP. That is my final word, That is law. > > > -- > David Leonard > > Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY > http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net > http://RotaryRoster.net > > > -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net --0022152d6d8dd35d6e0495ad3a34 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bill,
I have one of the early aquare boxes, at that time I did have to reque= st a special tubo model.=A0 So Tracy must have changed it after you bought = yours.
=A0
Dave Leonard

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Bill Bradburry = <bbradburr= y@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Tracy,

Not that I need= or want to waste bins with unused manifold pressures, but is that somethin= g that you program into the EC-2 if it is going to be used with a turbo?=A0= =A0 My unit is the rectangular one bought in Oct 2005, and upgraded in Oct = 2007.=A0 it only goes up to 41.8 inches of pressure in the top bin.???

=A0

Bill B

=A0

From:= Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy
Sent: Monday, November 22, = 2010 11:05 AM=20


To: R= otary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20

=A0

All EC2/3s in the recta= ngular box (past 8 years or so) use 2 BAR MAP sensors which work up to 60&q= uot; Hg MP.

Tracy=A0

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> wr= ote:

=A0=A0=A0 My EC2 "MAP" sensors=A0= are for boosted use ( I presume MAP sensors are different for

boosted use )...............I have seen=A0w= hat MP it is good for but cannot recall the number off

the top of my head !!..............Tracy ??= .........Help !!

=A0=A0=A0

Kelly Troyer
= "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)<= span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2<= br>"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

=A0

=A0

From: Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.ne= t>
To: Rotary motors in aircra= ft <fly= rotary@lancaironline.net>
Se= nt: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:24:26 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tr= ailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20

Dave,

The top bin, +1= 27, on my EC-2 is 41.8 inches of manifold pressure.=A0 Does yours go higher= ?=A0

I just figured = that Tracy had something in mind when he set those limits.=A0 What does the= EC-2 do when you go outside its limits?=A0 Does it keep everything the sam= e as the last time it saw an instruction?

I have no inten= tion of boosting my setup and I am roughly at sea level, (55 Ft ), so with = ram air, I might be able to see 31 inches.=A0 The rest I will never use.

=A0

You are welcome= to borrow them if you like.=A0=A0 :>)

=A0

Bill B

=A0

From:= Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Monday, November 22, = 2010 9:25 AM
To: Rotary = motors in aircraft
Subject:<= /b> [FlyRotary] Re: Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20

=A0

=A0

=A0

I have no kno= wledge of boosted rotary engines. It is a fad. It will go away.

=A0

Lynn E. Hanov= er=A0=A0


LOL, I have no knowledge either.=A0 But that is a= different matter.

=A0

Thanks for the detailed reply, as expected, only I ca= n choose my level of boost and no one has the magic number of when I will r= un into problems with detonation.=A0 And who am I kidding by trying to push= the limit.=A0 Inching up the power...=A0 If 45 inches is no problem, then = 46" is going to be OK...

=A0

Unfortunately, having "a problem" will mean= an engine re-build if not another landing on a road.=A0 So I must set an a= rbitrary limit and stick to it....=A0=A0

(drone voice of Homer Simpson):=A0Eight Hundred horse= power..

.. No, stick to the boost=A0limit....

...Eight Hundred horse power...

.. This is an airplane, we are not safely=A0on the gr= ound...

..Eight Hundred horse power...

.. Stay away from the light, do not go into the light= !

=A0

45 inches MAP.=A0 That is my final word, That is law.=


--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.= net

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=A0

<= br>

--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY=
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
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